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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 08:43 PM Jun 2018

A president can't obstruct justice? That's not quite right, legal scholars say.

The assertion by President Trump’s lawyers that he cannot obstruct justice because he has absolute authority over all federal investigations is legally problematic, analysts say, because it would essentially mean the nation’s commander in chief is above the law.

But the president’s powers are expansive, and many questions remain about how Trump’s office could protect him from the special counsel investigation examining whether his campaign coordinated with Russia to interfere with the 2016 presidential election.

“The fact is, everything that we’re seeing, there is no precedent for,” said Jacob Frenkel, who worked in the independent counsel’s office in the late 1990s and is now at the law firm Dickinson Wright.

In a 20-page letter submitted to the special counsel’s office this year, Trump’s attorneys asserted that “the President’s actions here, by virtue of his position as the chief law enforcement officer, could neither constitutionally nor legally constitute obstruction because that would amount to him obstructing himself.” They also asserted that “he could, if he wished, terminate the inquiry, or even exercise his power to pardon if he so desired.”

Legal analysts said that as the head of the executive branch, Trump could issue pardons, fire senior officials or order them to shut down investigations. But if his motives were corrupt, such actions could constitute obstruction.

The principle laid out in the letter is “a ludicrous legal theory,” said Neal Katyal, a former acting solicitor general who now works in private practice at Hogan Lovells. “The idea that a president can’t obstruct justice died with King George III, with a brief attempt at revival by Richard Nixon.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-president-cant-obstruct-justice-thats-not-quite-right-legal-scholars-say/ar-AAybJxq?li=BBnbcA1

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A president can't obstruct justice? That's not quite right, legal scholars say. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2018 OP
Of course a POTUS can obstruct justice vlyons Jun 2018 #1
Andrew Cuomo did the same thing in NY FUGAMC Jun 2018 #4
You can take this to the bank...the shitstain will DARE anyone to challenge his Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #2
The notion is ridiculous. He's a citizen like everyone else, not a king. brush Jun 2018 #3
All the king's men moondust Jun 2018 #5

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. Of course a POTUS can obstruct justice
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 08:49 PM
Jun 2018

I don't care what legal theories and arguments Trump's lawyers concoct. Not all we voters are immoral idiots. There's a few of us out here (actually more than a few) that know BS when we hear it.

 

FUGAMC

(13 posts)
4. Andrew Cuomo did the same thing in NY
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 09:39 PM
Jun 2018

He created a Commission to investigate public corruption (the Moreland Commission), and disbanded it when it started looking too close to home after asserting that it was his commission. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moreland_Commission_to_Investigate_Public_Corruption

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
2. You can take this to the bank...the shitstain will DARE anyone to challenge his
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 08:50 PM
Jun 2018

"authority" to do whatever he wants to do. He does it every day. He will ignore any legal challenges. Is the DOJ going to come and put cuffs on him and drag him into court? I want to see it.

brush

(53,791 posts)
3. The notion is ridiculous. He's a citizen like everyone else, not a king.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 09:29 PM
Jun 2018

What was that Flynn loved to yell about Hillary—"lock him up".

moondust

(19,993 posts)
5. All the king's men
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 10:32 PM
Jun 2018

are just making up self-serving rules as they go knowing most of their dupes will swallow it.

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