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US Ambassador to Germany. He says he will personally intervene in internal politics of Europe (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2018 OP
Maybe the immigrants there will Ilsa Jun 2018 #1
If he interfers in their internal affairs, Germany can simply expel him, can't they? scarletwoman Jun 2018 #2
Yep, they should kick his ass out. Elwood P Dowd Jun 2018 #3
I hope they unceremoniously throw this stupid ass out on his ear! justhanginon Jun 2018 #4
My thoughts exactly onetexan Jun 2018 #5
They will. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #7
I think that's Putin's plan: WWIII C Moon Jun 2018 #19
If they are trying to do that in Germany than they are Iliyah Jun 2018 #6
They're officially teaming up with.... SergeStorms Jun 2018 #14
Yawn GusBob Jun 2018 #8
Doesn't matter if he can. RandySF Jun 2018 #9
And he has revealed his hand by demonstrating his intent GusBob Jun 2018 #10
More likely to stirr up shit behind the scenes.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #11
True, but the Breitbarkers love to hear it anyway. JHB Jun 2018 #27
According to recent updates on the situation GusBob Jun 2018 #29
Ric Grenell is The American Sergey Kislyak Marcuse Jun 2018 #12
Thoughts from Germany... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #13
Trump is totally predictable. SergeStorms Jun 2018 #16
Was thinking about that today, Serge. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #18
I keep forgetting about Bolton.... SergeStorms Jun 2018 #23
I still shudder..... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #24
I hear 'ya. SergeStorms Jun 2018 #25
I'm thinking Trump will do whatever Putin wants, too. C Moon Jun 2018 #20
What's the soft spot? His cerebral cortex? JHB Jun 2018 #28
His dick. dhol82 Jun 2018 #32
The only "soft side" I can read from the article is... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #36
The idiocy in this administration knows no bounds. SunSeeker Jun 2018 #15
We're Russia's dumbass cousin now? herding cats Jun 2018 #17
Cousin? We are a Russian puppet state BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #26
Sadly, that's a fair correction. herding cats Jun 2018 #35
Yes, exactly. BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #37
Oh, for freaking sake! syringis Jun 2018 #21
Grenell Irks His Hosts The Day He Arrives (9 May) struggle4progress Jun 2018 #22
He Obviously Hasn't Met Angela Me. Jun 2018 #30
Germany should send him packing C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #31
Breaking: U.S. now laughing-stock of entire planet. trof Jun 2018 #33
Germany should revoke his diplomatic credentials dalton99a Jun 2018 #34

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
2. If he interfers in their internal affairs, Germany can simply expel him, can't they?
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 11:58 PM
Jun 2018

I don't see why they would have to put up with that shit.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
4. I hope they unceremoniously throw this stupid ass out on his ear!
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 12:02 AM
Jun 2018

They are not content with screwing up our own country beyond belief they want to spread their rot around the world.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
7. They will.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 12:16 AM
Jun 2018

So will other countries if we try to interfere in their politics in any direct or visible way.

We did it after WWII, but today, it will not be appreciated at all.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. If they are trying to do that in Germany than they are
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 12:10 AM
Jun 2018

trying to do it in other countries.

This administration is itching for a world conflict where people will suffer.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
14. They're officially teaming up with....
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:56 AM
Jun 2018

Putin to disrupt other countries' elections and government. There couldn't be a more blatant example of Trump being in bed with Putin.

Does Trump actually think he and Putin are going to share control of the world? We all know how Putin handles people who challenge his claim to total power. Trump would be found in a bloody heap beneath an open window, or slumped over his desk after eating a 'Putin Special' polonium sandwich.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
8. Yawn
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 12:21 AM
Jun 2018

That guy has about much power to personally intervene in Europe as Pee-Wee Herman

Europeans hate Trump

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
10. And he has revealed his hand by demonstrating his intent
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 12:26 AM
Jun 2018

Just like Trump he is all bluster and couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Stupid is as stupid says. Now the smart folks will align against him

His personal strength is nil is the point

Personally intervene, what does that mean? Nothing

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
11. More likely to stirr up shit behind the scenes....
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:35 AM
Jun 2018

in private meetings and communications with their radicals......

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
29. According to recent updates on the situation
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 07:30 PM
Jun 2018

Germans from across the political spectrum are lining up to denounce this asshole

Seems as if they don't take kindly to people telling them how to run their business

Marcuse

(7,488 posts)
12. Ric Grenell is The American Sergey Kislyak
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:39 AM
Jun 2018

Putin’s Assignment for Trump

#1 Remove US Sanctions
#2 Meddle in NATO allies internal affairs
#3 Declare a Trade War against allied countries
#4 Raise the Price of Oil
#5 Cede back Northern Alaska

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
13. Thoughts from Germany...
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:44 AM
Jun 2018
The Hardliner with a Soft Spot - A Visit with Trump's Man in Berlin

Link: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/a-profile-of-u-s-ambassador-to-germany-richard-grenell-a-1208545.html

(snip)
Every new situation demands a new response, Grenell said, quickly adding that he's also problem solver, just like the president. Donald Trump is also ideologically inconsistent, which is why he won the election, Grenell proclaimed. "I think it's a huge advantage for Donald Trump that people can't predict him." He paused to allow everyone to take in this statement.

Should I laugh or should I cry?.......

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
16. Trump is totally predictable.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:02 AM
Jun 2018

Trump will do whatever is to Trump's advantage. Period. Trump's ego is his defining characteristic. Everything he does is for the glorification or enrichment of Trump and his family.

That will also be his undoing.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
18. Was thinking about that today, Serge.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:36 AM
Jun 2018

I agree but feel it's more likely he's being lead around like a puppy on a leash by several controllers like Miller and Bolton. They convince him that such-and-such policy (that they want executed) will be great for him and a WIN and he's in full-steam, and then the Tweets start.

That's what frightens me about Bolton. If he could convince tRump that a nuclear strike or full-blown ground war would be good for Trump Empire, it would be a go.

In the end, you're right - it's all about him.....

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
23. I keep forgetting about Bolton....
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:54 AM
Jun 2018

whispering in his ear. You're right, that is scary! Anyone sitting next to Trump could make him change policy though. All they'd have to do is convince him it was the choice that made him the hero, that made him more wealthy, or made him appear more manly and virile.

I guess maybe he's not that predictable. Like people have said from the start, whoever talks to Trump last is the person he'll listen to.

Predictable or not, he's still a world class asshole and he's ruining our country.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
24. I still shudder.....
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 05:12 PM
Jun 2018

every time I hear Bolton's name because I remember his antics during W's war time (both he and Wolfowitz) and his stretch in the UN.

What's really worrying with tRump is that he has so many different people and interests pulling his chain in different directions and trying to stroke his ego. That unpredictability can only lead to (more) disaster and suffering for regular citizens.

Let's hope this nightmare ends soon. This old man has already seen enough pain and suffering for one lifetime, well before this asshole came along.

..................

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
25. I hear 'ya.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 07:20 PM
Jun 2018

I'm getting a little long in the tooth myself, and I shudder at the direction this country is heading. My kids and grandkids aren't going to live in a country where we're ruled by a dictator. Not if I have anything to say about it!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
36. The only "soft side" I can read from the article is...
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 09:14 PM
Jun 2018

regarding his own personal vulnerabilities. That's not exactly what I would call a soft side, as in caring about our fellow man. From what little I've read about him, I'm not seeing that he gives a shit about anyone but himself and a few in the hard-line Repug political bubble. So, he appears to be a perfect fit for Trump.

I suspect Trump tempered his dislike of gay people just so he could send a Bolton-ish hard liner to Germany, thus further amplifying his pattern of insane disruption of the international order and traditional norms.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
17. We're Russia's dumbass cousin now?
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:02 AM
Jun 2018

All the same meddling but without the intelligence to even pretend we're not involved?

That's going to go over well with other countries.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
35. Sadly, that's a fair correction.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:53 PM
Jun 2018

Those are also good examples of what we look like to the rest of the world in this right now.

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
37. Yes, exactly.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:47 PM
Jun 2018

I'm fortunate enough to be going to Ireland and Germany this year as a tourist and I'll be reverting back to SOP from 2000-08, which was telling people I'm from Canada any time I left the United States. By that I mean taxi drivers, bar tenders etc. People I meet in passing. I just get so weary of the Trump discussion. My wife and I were in England in October 2016 and were asked more than a dozen times about the election. Yes, it's a small inconvenience during an otherwise great time, but I'm more than a little embarrassed about being an American right now. Especially when traveling to places that more or less have their shit together. We are a disgrace.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
21. Oh, for freaking sake!
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:51 AM
Jun 2018

This ignoramus hasn't realized yet that the US credibility is in the ropes??

As for interfering in our internal affairs, we're ready and waiting for him ... It will happen when pigs fly !

Speaking as European, we have to do something on our side. It is getting worse every day!

I can't do much on my own, but I can to the least, spread the good word and tell what's really happening and what you're undergoing.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
22. Grenell Irks His Hosts The Day He Arrives (9 May)
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:22 AM
Jun 2018

May 9, 20181:35 PM ET
SORAYA SARHADDI NELSON

Germany waited nearly 16 months for the Trump administration to send a new ambassador to Berlin. But Richard Grenell managed to offend many Germans the day he arrived ...

"Ric, my advice, after a long ambassadorial career: explain your own country's policies and lobby the host country — but never tell the host country what to do, if you want to stay out of trouble," tweeted Wolfgang Ischinger, who was Germany's ambassador to the U.S. from 2001 to 2006. "Germans are eager to listen, but they will resent instructions."

German public broadcaster Deutsche Welle quoted Andrea Nahles, who heads the governing coalition junior partner Social Democrats, as saying: "It's not up to me to teach the U.S. ambassador how to be diplomatic, but he does seem to need a bit of tutoring."

And lawmaker Omid Nouripour, who heads the foreign policy committee in parliament for the Green party, told public radio network Deutschlandfunk, "Good cooperation means that you do not drive a highly aggressive, ruthless policy towards our security interests and, before you even show up, you threaten the German economy. It's just not a tone of cooperation" ...

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/05/09/609740613/new-u-s-ambassador-to-germany-grenell-irks-his-hosts-the-day-he-arrives

trof

(54,256 posts)
33. Breaking: U.S. now laughing-stock of entire planet.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 07:53 PM
Jun 2018

We are now the butt of the joke.
We ARE the joke.
How does it feel?
Thanks Donnie Two-Scoops.

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