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garybeck

(9,942 posts) Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:17 AM Jun 2018

Why do they keep changing their story about Jr's statement?

At first they said daddy had nothing to do with Jr's statement. Then they said he gave some general fatherly advice. Now they say he dictated it.

Why keep changing the story?

Obviously because they know the truth is going to come out.

I can only think of a couple reasons they know the truth is going to come out.

The most obvious reason is that someone who was there on Air Force 1 is squealing and they know it.

I tried googling who was on the plane and didn't come up with anything.

The other possibility is that Jr could be facing charges himself if he is the one who wrote the statement and he doesn't want to take the fall for his father.

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Why do they keep changing their story about Jr's statement? (Original Post) garybeck Jun 2018 OP

I wondered about this as well. triron Jun 2018 #1

They are throwing sh*t against the wall to see what sticks MiniMe Jun 2018 #2

Giving arguments to the bots and minions for messaging. nt chowder66 Jun 2018 #3

Each statement from them is a lie. roamer65 Jun 2018 #4

Self-inflicted blabbermouth.... Historic NY Jun 2018 #5

yes but garybeck Jun 2018 #13

I don't know the answer to your question, but if I remember correctly, one Trump aid Sophia4 Jun 2018 #6

I think I heard somewhere that Hope Hicks was the person dictated to. pnwmom Jun 2018 #7

Begging the question Sherman A1 Jun 2018 #8

Because this: demmiblue Jun 2018 #9

Doesn't matter, trump won't go down for obstruction. If that would work, he'd be impeached and Hoyt Jun 2018 #10

Why did Dirty Donny Junior*s wife dump him? Achilleaze Jun 2018 #11

because they are trying like hell to keep the grfit going. Javaman Jun 2018 #12

Daddy is now confessing because Don Jr. is going down first malaise Jun 2018 #14

Mark Corallo resigned over ethics concerns about the Air Force One meeting tinrobot Jun 2018 #15

Because the evidence keeps punching holes in their lies. (n/t) Iggo Jun 2018 #16

Because dad obstructed justice. spanone Jun 2018 #17

WE FOUND THE ANSWER! garybeck Jun 2018 #18

Hope Hicks? Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2018 #19

triron

(22,007 posts)

1. I wondered about this as well.

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:20 AM

Jun 2018

Surprised at lack of sources on this so far.

MiniMe

(21,717 posts)

2. They are throwing sh*t against the wall to see what sticks

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:24 AM

Jun 2018

chowder66

(9,073 posts)

3. Giving arguments to the bots and minions for messaging. nt

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:33 AM

Jun 2018

roamer65

(36,745 posts)

4. Each statement from them is a lie.

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:11 AM

Jun 2018

When one lie fails, they try another.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)

5. Self-inflicted blabbermouth....

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:19 AM

Jun 2018

can't get his lies straight.

garybeck

(9,942 posts)

13. yes but

Reply to Historic NY (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:31 AM

Jun 2018

when people keep changing their story and their lies it is usually because they are caught lying and then they change their story. We have no knowledge or indication that any testimony has contradicted what they originally said, which would be a reason to change their story. that's my point.

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)

6. I don't know the answer to your question, but if I remember correctly, one Trump aid

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:07 AM

Jun 2018

quit very soon after she appeared in front of Mueller. I could be wrong about that, but . . . . . May be completely unrelated to this issue, but . . . .

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)

7. I think I heard somewhere that Hope Hicks was the person dictated to.

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:47 AM

Jun 2018

And we know she talked to Mueller.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

8. Begging the question

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:13 AM

Jun 2018

Why do they do anything?

I believe it comes at least in part from the inability to keep one's lies straight. I knew a fellow years ago that I considered to be simple a pathological liar. He lied about everything big and small mostly just to weave a "good" story. It got to the point that I couldn't stand to be around him and we went out separate ways.

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)

9. Because this:

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 06:40 AM

Jun 2018

Giuliani on ABC: "For every one of these things he did, we can write out five reasons why he did it. If four of them are completely innocent and one of them is your assumption that it’s a guilty motive, which [Trump] would deny, you can’t possibly prosecute him" or impeach

Link to tweet

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

10. Doesn't matter, trump won't go down for obstruction. If that would work, he'd be impeached and

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:25 AM

Jun 2018

convicted by now. There's not much doubt he's obstructed justice and worse.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)

11. Why did Dirty Donny Junior*s wife dump him?

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:34 AM

Jun 2018

Maybe she didn't want to go DOWN with an adulterous republican traitor to America?

* Supposed spawn of the the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Javaman

(62,530 posts)

12. because they are trying like hell to keep the grfit going.

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:28 AM

Jun 2018

as long as they keep the message Jell-O like, it will be hard to nail down.

but even Jell-O has a shelf life and it's starting to dry out and the orange asshole and his room full of dopes know this.

malaise

(269,054 posts)

14. Daddy is now confessing because Don Jr. is going down first

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:35 AM

Jun 2018

This week should be fun

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)

15. Mark Corallo resigned over ethics concerns about the Air Force One meeting

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:43 AM

Jun 2018

I'm sure he's talked to Mueller.

Hope Hicks may be another.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)

16. Because the evidence keeps punching holes in their lies. (n/t)

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:44 AM

Jun 2018

spanone

(135,844 posts)

17. Because dad obstructed justice.

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:02 AM

Jun 2018

garybeck

(9,942 posts)

18. WE FOUND THE ANSWER!

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

Jun 2018

Giuliani on shifting Trump Tower story:

'It was a mistake. I swear to God.'

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/rudy-giuliani-trump-tower-cnntv/index.html

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)

19. Hope Hicks?

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:00 PM

Jun 2018

The president directed that Trump Jr.’s statement to the Times describe the meeting as unimportant. He wanted the statement to say that the meeting had been initiated by the Russian lawyer and primarily was about her pet issue—the adoption of Russian children. Air Force One took off from Germany shortly after 6 p.m., about noon in Washington. In a forward cabin, Trump was busy working on his son’s statement, according to people with knowledge of events. The president dictated the statement to Hicks, who served as a go-between with Trump Jr., who was not on the plane, sharing edits between the two men, according to people with knowledge of the discussions.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/07/31/president_reportedly_dictated_trump_jr_s_misleading_response_on_russia_meeting.html

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