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Disinformation Wars, how the Ukraine fought fake news. (Original Post) Heartstrings Jun 2018 OP
K&R! Cha Jun 2018 #1
:) StopFake News, weekly broadcast showing nothing but lies! Hortensis Jun 2018 #2
Thank you, Hortensis! Heartstrings Jun 2018 #3
Drunk president gave soccer ball gift to soldier amputee? Hortensis Jun 2018 #4
Great description of the reaction! Heartstrings Jun 2018 #5

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. :) StopFake News, weekly broadcast showing nothing but lies!
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 05:14 AM
Jun 2018

Very interesting, article, thanks. This is a NYT article on mostly just the StopFake News aspect of battling Russia's cyberwar. Sounds like an entertaining show to watch, but its staff are very serious and scrupulous. About now I'm thinking of the massive outrage and attacks from the right if something like this was started on U.S. TV. Until it started working.

During the Ukraine crisis in 2014, manipulative and often outright invented news poured in from Russia on satellite television and websites and into sympathetic local newspapers.

Recurring themes emerged, becoming the talk at water coolers around the capital: An Islamic State training camp had opened in Ukraine; President Petro O. Poroshenko was a drunk and sometimes appeared inebriated in public; nationalists had taken to lynching or, in one infamous case, crucifying Russian-speaking children.

Ukraine banned some Russian television broadcasts, a practice that raised free speech objections, and yet the fake news still circulates online. “StopFake News” has chosen public debunking, not banning, as the best defense — and has shown it can become its own form of appealing entertainment. ...

“StopFake News” is a peculiar kind of news. For three years, the headlines have declared what did not happen and what was not said, and the heroism or villainy of people who never existed.
In story after story — more than 1,000 have been reported so far — the journalists reveal laws that were never passed, insults that were never uttered and riots that never happened on quiet town squares. “The Exclusive Interview That Wasn’t,” reads one headline. ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/26/world/europe/ukraine-kiev-fake-news.html

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Drunk president gave soccer ball gift to soldier amputee?
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 05:26 AM
Jun 2018

Sounds just like the technique of slurs the right spreads about Democrats here. Goes straight to the gut for reaction, bypassing the brain.

From your article:

They (Russia) were pretty successful in the beginning because there were no reactions from Ukraine. We didn’t take them seriously and we allowed them to have at least three TV networks that were still broadcasting in Ukraine.

Three Fox News-type networks?!

Goals ... destroy the faith of people in democracy and to persuade them that everyone lies.

But this is really impressive and encouraging:
The measures that were conducted helped us make them look stupid. Not a lot of Ukrainians right now — I believe 3 to 5 percent — still consider Russian media a reliable source of information. The other Ukrainians are sure that Russian media are propaganda outlets.


Imagine if only 5% of Americans were deluded enough to repeat right-wing propaganda?
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