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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUntil MSNBC Morning Scum Ms. Mika starts calling for Melania to leave tRump
for his #MeToo behaviors - Ms. Mika needs to shut the fuck up about what Hillary or
any other wife chooses to do or not do within the walls of their marriages.
Period.
Ms. Mika has no standing to chastise Hillary.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Ninga
(8,275 posts)in their job sharing roles? Huh?
mopinko
(70,127 posts)to their rapists, so it isnt rape?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)that is always the case.
He is rude and insulting to her every minute.
Even when he DOES let her get a word in, he is just sitting there gasping for air, barely able to control himself. He has his next sentence ready to go before she is even finished.
I know people like that.
Of course the show IS called Morning JOE.
I guess for a reason..
dlk
(11,569 posts)They may have won a few battles but lost the war and they've never gotten over it.
Ninga
(8,275 posts)Mika today chastised Hillary and was visiciouly dismissive. Not warranted.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)"But what about her emails?" will appear on a billboard outside their cemetery.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Assuming that Clinton lives beyond the Trump Presidency (because he alone might not be guided by tradition and normal common courtesies), he - like even Nixon - will be honored as a past President with the current President and others speaking of good that he has accomplished.
As to legacy, EVERYTHING that is done is part of a President's legacy. A President can get credit for things that have little to do with his actions (ie Trump's "great" economy" . I think Clinton's scandals did impact the future and not just in many Democrats now (or then) having to make exceptions for him that they would not make for any Republican. Gore actually DID get more votes in Florida and without the "felons list that included blacks not charged or convicted of felonies, the Palm beach ballot that led to many votes intended for Gore to be thrown out, and the harassment on election day of the Haitian American population, he would have won Florida by a comfortable margin. However, with no scandal, Bush, a drunk until he was 40, could not have run on "bringing honor and decency back to the White House" , Gore could have more unambiguously ran on the peace and prosperity of the 1990s with changes that reflected who he is. He also would likely not have selected Joe Lieberman, who was chosen partly because of that scandal.
Though you never know the branch of "the future" that is not taken, but it is likely to have been better than the one taken!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)All mentions of the Clintons are about the midterms, not about them, not about ANYTHING except holding onto power. We must gain a majority in the senate, not just the house. The next SCOTUS appointment must be confirmed by a Democrat-controlled senate.
COUNTDOWN TO HANDING THEM THEIR ASSES: Only 154 days.
aggiesal
(8,918 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)..for something he said against/about/ a female in his book.
Ninga
(8,275 posts)superior.
dchill
(38,505 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)her personal feelings about anything in the book. She's committed to increasing Republican power in the courts, holding onto Republican seats in the states and congress this year, and gaining more power in 2020.
Wolff's book was hurting Republicans, so he and it were attacked.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)any other than a Republican women is the norm because Democratic women are evil and Republican women are fulfilling their wife's duties with no questions asked. Got that?
Same with Democratic men. He can apologizes forever, but it's never good enough. Republican men claim their GAWD forgives them.
Ninga
(8,275 posts)#Basta#TheProblemIsn'tHillary
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)prostitutes had his wife beside him during his apology. He received a STANDING OVATION from his gop buddies when he returned to "work" She stayed with him, and got appointed to a judge position! Reward? Babs Bush stayed with GHW for 10 years during his affair with Jennifer Fitzgerald. No problem, since they are (R)'s. The gop family values are almost impossible to understand. This is why they expect the democratic politicians to display them. Mika is still with Jo-Jo after having an affair on both their spouses. Who is SHE to tell Hillary what she should do? Hillary could run circles around her in an intelligence contest. Maleria stays to protect her (and her parents) from being investigated for immigration misdeeds.
Hugin
(33,164 posts)This is all a distraction from "Where's Melania" and as we all know Trump makes phone calls. (See: The NFL.)
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)My goodness gracious dear me.
Shes playing Aunt Pittypat from GWTW.
Alethia Merritt
(147 posts)We know Mika and Joe have been longtime Clinton haters but today's comments went just too far. Sorry, Mika, you don't get to tell Democrats who they need and don't need. Trying to erase WJC legacy of putting more women and minorities into positions of power in gov.
Folks conveniently forget that Bill Clinton was impeached, he apologized publicly (something that is much more difficult than a private phone call that no one but the two parties hear), he lost millions as a result, Monica always said the affair was consensual, she was not a minor, the Clintons decided that it was more important to them to keep their family together, they continue with their life-long service to humanity unsung.
I lived through that era and worked for government during the Clinton-Gore years. Their administration motto was "putting people firs." Our agencies at the time worked diligently with some success at re-inventing government. The SSA and FEMA when they left office attest to the successful changes they made place service offices of these agencies all over the US and automating many of the SSA functions. Also, Family Leave workplace safety were major initiatives during those 8 years. Was it all perfect? By no means, but the tone and tenor of the government working for the people was much different and people generally felt better about their government and people were generally more caring for one another.
Putting people first and building a government that looked more like America was foundation of their administration.
No matter how much the Clinton haters keep trying, millions will continue to support them and their current efforts to serve others who are less fortunate. It was a far better time than now even if they don't want to admit it.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)The Clintons always cared about regular, working people. They did not grow up with silver spoons in their mouths, like Dubya and tRump. They understand WORKING for a living. So, now they are wealthy, because they were well liked and respected worldwide. Still are. No protests are planned when the Clintons or Obamas travel overseas. tRump is afraid to visit the UK!! Don;t expect tRump to earn speaking fees as high as the DEMOCRATIC presidents are paid. He is as dumb as a bag of hammers. Besides, if the laws are allowed to stand, he will be in prison where he has belonged for many years.
manor321
(3,344 posts)UTUSN
(70,711 posts)on the air, wrote a book or two preaching about being an empowered woman while a member of the lucky sperm club, divested herself of her marriage, and then got "equality" and deference from Scabs by hooking up with him. That's how she got him to cut back on the verbal and emotional abuse (for now).
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...a "scarlet letter A" is a scarlet letter A even if you are a television personality.
kimbutgar
(21,163 posts)Sounds like a people on glass houses shouldnt throw stones. Mika!
Old Terp
(464 posts)I'm still there.