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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:15 PM Jun 2018

Ronald Reagan's daughter: Father would be 'appalled' by Trump presidency

Ronald Reagan’s daughter in a new op-ed writes that her father would be “appalled” by President Trump's presidency.

Patti Davis reflects on her father’s “love for America” in The Washington Post ahead of the anniversary of his death, and what he would think of the nation today.

“He would be appalled and heartbroken at a Congress that refuses to stand up to a president who not only seems ignorant of the Constitution but who also attempts at every turn to dismantle and mock our system of checks and balances,” Davis wrote.


She also said that her father would call on Americans “to recognize that the caustic, destructive language emanating from our current president is sullying the dream that America once was.





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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390509-ronald-reagans-daughter-he-would-be-appalled-by-trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mourning-america-what-my-father-ronald-reagan-would-say-today/2018/06/03/a0fe1cfe-65be-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.627fa8ac7b05

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Ronald Reagan's daughter: Father would be 'appalled' by Trump presidency (Original Post) kpete Jun 2018 OP
Will twitler attack Patti Davis? kimbutgar Jun 2018 #1
Bullshit Jake Stern Jun 2018 #2
+++ This sdfernando Jun 2018 #11
+1,000 malaise Jun 2018 #12
Yep. Trump is a monster 50 years in the making. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #13
It doesn't have ro be one or the other. Reagan can still be a shitty president JI7 Jun 2018 #16
That's akin Jake Stern Jun 2018 #18
EXACTLY ... total Bull shit Raine Jun 2018 #22
I replied in another thread... Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #3
Raygun begat Drumpt. Raygun was pure evil. kairos12 Jun 2018 #4
Really? Iran-Contra? HUD? S&L? EPA? Carter's debate notes? Solly Mack Jun 2018 #5
She is delusional kcr Jun 2018 #6
At least Reagan didn't love the USSR's KGB operatives. nt tblue37 Jun 2018 #7
Yes, he would, but that's because Dinesh d'Souza was Hortensis Jun 2018 #8
I think Jealous is the word she's looking for lame54 Jun 2018 #9
Not sure I understand the basis of your argument, Patti gratuitous Jun 2018 #10
raygun was a kinder, gentler shithead. KG Jun 2018 #14
Sorry Patti, read your history books. Boomerproud Jun 2018 #15
Would this be the Same reagan mercuryblues Jun 2018 #17
Cut her some slack. Blue_true Jun 2018 #19
when daddy mercuryblues Jun 2018 #20
You have all good points. But blood is always thicker than water. Blue_true Jun 2018 #21

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
2. Bullshit
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:53 PM
Jun 2018

Reagan is the foundation that Trump's presidency is built on.

He not only helped whelp the modern hard right Republican Party, he nurtured it, he fed it and now his daughter wants to act like he had nothing to do with it.



sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
11. +++ This
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:54 PM
Jun 2018

I remember one of his mantras that government can't solve your problems, it is the problem....and welfare queens picking up welfare checks in a Cadillac....or his pathetic response to the AIDS crisis.

He may have been a good father to Patty but he was a horrible President to this country.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
13. Yep. Trump is a monster 50 years in the making.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:59 PM
Jun 2018

Going back to Nixon's Southern Strategy. And Reagan perfected the art of dog whistling and anti-government rhetoric. His daughter is in denial.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
16. It doesn't have ro be one or the other. Reagan can still be a shitty president
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 05:48 PM
Jun 2018

And still be disgusted with trump.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
18. That's akin
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 06:23 PM
Jun 2018

to an inmate in for murder being disgusted with another inmate in for multiple rape.

It is almost comically absurd that someone so tainted by their own acts would ever feel the right to render moral judgments about others.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
3. I replied in another thread...
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jun 2018

He would say BRAVO my republican comrades. Thank you for carrying on

my legacy and expanding on it.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
5. Really? Iran-Contra? HUD? S&L? EPA? Carter's debate notes?
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:02 PM
Jun 2018

Really?

Really?

Mister nutmeg invasion?

Really?

Really?

Ignoring Aids?

Really?

The man who couldn't discern reality from a movie?

Really?

Mister 11th Commandment? Thou shall not speak speak ill of any fellow republican.

Really?

kcr

(15,317 posts)
6. She is delusional
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:03 PM
Jun 2018

People tend to have blind spots about people they're close to, but that's just bald face rejection of facts.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Yes, he would, but that's because Dinesh d'Souza was
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jun 2018

at least right when he called him a dummy, relatively speaking of course. He didn't look forward and see what his presidency started would become if it continued.

This author doesn't point out, though, that the intellectual basis of traditional conservatism that Reaganism purged was only 30-40 years old. Before post WW2 attempts to build an intellectual philosophical basis for it, conservatism was mostly just a reaction, that feeling of resistance in the gut to change and differences from what is familiar. At most one generation grew up with the foundation he describes, and it wasn't in any grade school textbooks. Those reflected the liberal ideas our nation was founded on, which themselves arose from the Enlightenment era.

And when he wrote this in 2010, because of the acceleration of the corruption and insanity, this author had barely seen the half of it.

How Reagan ruined conservatism
Traditional conservatives disdain populism and respect knowledge. What went wrong?

And then I realised – the rot set in with Ronald Reagan.

This might seem an odd conclusion, since President Reagan is a conservative hero who won two presidential elections. But the ideas that are now known as “Reaganism” are, in fact, profoundly subversive of some of the most important conservative values. Traditional conservatives disdain populism and respect knowledge. They believe in balancing the government’s books. And they are pragmatists who are suspicious of ideology. Reagan debased all these ideas – and modern American conservatism is still suffering the consequences.

The most damaging idea propagated by the Reagan myth is the cult of the idiot-savant (the wise fool). You can see it in the very first line of Dinesh D’Souza’s admiring biography of Reagan, which proclaims: “Sometimes it really helps to be a dummy.” Mr D’Souza recounts numerous stories in which intellectuals – even conservative intellectuals – disdained Reagan. They scorned his tendency to spend cabinet meetings sorting jelly beans into different colours, and his taste for flaky anecdotes. But, Mr D’Souza concludes, the “dummy” was right and the pointy-heads were wrong.

A dangerous chain of reasoning flows from this popular version of history. Reagan was apparently stupid and often startlingly ignorant – but he was vindicated by history. Therefore, goes the theory, ignorance and stupidity are good signs. They show that a politician is in tune with the deeper wisdom of the people. Once you start thinking like that, it is but a short step to Sarah Palin.

https://www.ft.com/content/d640855c-256a-11df-9cdb-00144feab49a

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Not sure I understand the basis of your argument, Patti
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jun 2018

Your father, after all, was the man who went to Philadelphia, Mississippi to declare his candidacy, a site chosen specifically for its history as a center of caustic, destructive activity.

Boomerproud

(7,955 posts)
15. Sorry Patti, read your history books.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jun 2018

I was 24 when your father was elected and have a long, and very good, memory. You and your father get no pass from me.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Cut her some slack.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:04 PM
Jun 2018

She is his daughter by his favorite wife. She is trying to make him better than he was. Reagan started welfare shaming and a lot of other bad trends that still bedevil us.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
20. when daddy
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:58 PM
Jun 2018

was sitting in the Oval office with Alzheimer's SHE.SAID.NOTHING. We are where we are because of that. Because of the Welfare Queen mantra, and his not so veiled racism. I'd like to cut her something, and it ain't slack.

IOW racist daddy that got Alzheiner's in office is OK, but man in office that openly say everything the republikkklans, including her daddy, only say behind closed doors is not

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. You have all good points. But blood is always thicker than water.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 09:06 PM
Jun 2018

She desperately want to believe that her dad was a good man, he wasn't, but in regards to her, I leave things at that.

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