That line in the sand keeps moving closer to the edge of the cliff.

And I doubt he will pardon himself unless he really feels like he is out of options

Bryant

for any crime. The question isn't really whether he could pardon himself. It's whether a President can be indicted for a crime at all. Now, the Congress can impeach and remove a President, but it's really unclear about whether he can be charged with a crime in federal court.

Mueller's not going to indict Trump, for that reason. Individual states aren't going to indict him, either, because bringing a President to trial is a very iffy thing, to say the least.

Instead, Mueller will probably charge a bunch of people around the President, more or less forcing Congress to act on impeachment. He'll present all the evidence, charge the people near the President for crimes that involved the President, and make it clear that Trump is also involved. Mueller may well name Trump as an un-indicted co-conspirator, though.

This will all probably not happen until after the November election, or perhaps even in 2019. If Democrats regain control of the House in November, an impeachment will probably happen. Conviction is another matter, and we won't have a 2/3 majority in the Senate. However, facing a trial in the Senate, where Trump would have to testify, he'd probably resign to avoid that trial.

This other stuff? It's not going to happen. We need to be looking at the November election, not what's going on now. We need to take back the House and get a majority in the Senate. That's what we need to do. Let's focus on that.

Until we Dems control both Houses,nothing changes only delaying the rule of Law.

Removing Trump is clearly the right thing to do, but a failed attempt to do so could hurt us. There's no way enough Republicans will turn on Trump in order to convict.

It all sounded good until you said congress will be forced to impeach him

No - No they won't

There is no mechanism to force them

There's an election. Read on...

They are talking about the current congress
And even if we win(nothing should be taken for granted) we will never get 2/3's vote in the senate.
Majority or not - repugs won't impeach him

Clearly no action will be taken until he does. GOTV!

For all crimes, past, present and future. A Christmas Carol of Pardonition.

If the orange anus pardons himself, the blue tsunami becomes a reality. Bank on it.

But we will never get 2/3's vote in the senate