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captain queeg

(10,208 posts)
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:44 PM Jun 2018

Why are there not more comparisons of Trump to Hitler?

The repugs were always throwing accusations against Obama’s administration comparing them to Nazis and Hilter always off base and out of context. Meanwhile the correlations between the rise of Hitler and Trump are so many and obvious I could start now and not run out of gas till I fell asleep tonight. I always said the biggest difference between Hitlers rise and Trumps is that Germany was a lot more homogeneous and that Hitler was 100 times smarter.

It’s like Fox and others of that ilk are following Goebells playbook for propoganda. I’ll let others provide some examples of similarities there are so many. But one thing I believe was very important to the current rise of what’s going on in America (I can’t think of exactly what to call it, but pretty damn close to naziism) has been the rise of computers and social media and the weakening of a free and independent press.

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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. It's where arguments go to die on face value.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jun 2018

"The repugs were always throwing accusations against Obama’s administration comparing them to Nazis and Hilter always off base and out of context."

I don't recall this from their elected representatives. I'm sure a select few of them did.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
2. To compare 1920s, 1930s Germany to the U.S. shows a lack of historical knowledge about Germany.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jun 2018

It is not even remotely close.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
3. Because comparisons like that are likely to be dismissed as ridiculous hyperbole
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jun 2018

I suspect many people who aren’t as aware as DU members would see/hear that comparison and immediately reject it.

They don’t know or don’t want to admit how bad it is.

It isn’t an effective way to change anyone’s mind

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Those with direct memories of
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jun 2018

the late thirties and up to the mid forties,are becoming fewer by the day. And yes Murdoch Media has and is following the Gerboles play book. He did it in Australia as well as the UK. And most of the Displaced Persons who came to the States between 46' to 50' from the Camps in Eourpe are among those who have since passed on.

So those with first hand accounts of how,why and where things happened or occurred,are unable to speak up in real time.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
4. It ends the conversation & your ability to persuade. Maybe better to use examples of...
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:20 PM
Jun 2018

..."authoritarian regimes" and the like. Explain fascism as a current phenomenon, and why it is attractive to so many people. We have a wannabe totalitarian dictator on our hands in the here and now, and a population that has neither studied civics nor absorbed history. Educate them.

Godwin's Law is an observation that has currency for a reason.

Having said that, my late MIL was from Vienna, a center of science, art, music, philosophy, and literature in the German-speaking world during her lifetime and before that. She said: "Everybody thought Hitler was a lunatic, and that Mussolini was a clown." She escaped to Belgium at the onset of the Anschluss, and managed to survive the Holocaust.

Her words and experience have currency for those of us old enough to remember what we were taught about WW II, but as I said before, we are now dealing with probably two generations of American citizens who are disasteously ignorant. To them, "Hitler" is just another word for Bogeyman.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
6. Because we need to take it seriously?
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jun 2018

Hitler has never been taken seriously enough here. Nazis have even been featured in comedy. It's not funny anymore but that context remains.
What is happening is real and it was planted and cultivated in the US. We should be thinking about it in the context of our media and our own history of racism.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
8. Hitler was far more formidable than Trump could ever be...
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jun 2018

...the history of Hitler is the constant underestimating of him. He was a very smart, very able man, and the stories of his being hysterically insane and chewing the carpets are for the most part false. The fact that he wasn't insane makes him more evil, not less--lunatics generally aren't responsible for their actions. Hitler very definitely was. As for Trump, a better analogy would be Kaiser Wilhelm the Second. Both were basically unstable, vain, susceptible to whoever talked to them last. Of course, considering what happened to Germany--and the world--in 1914, that isn't a very encouraging analogy...

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