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ProgRocknProgPol

(143 posts)
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 09:54 PM Jun 2018

How long do you expect the ego-driven, cobbled-together spectacle on June 12 to dominate the news?

Maybe the IG report released one day after would dominate coverage if there is something truly scandalous in it. For my money, I think the worst of it is going to chew Comey and McCabe (and maybe Loretta Lynch) for their actions during the Clinton email probe without actually recommending charges. It would be funny if one of the things Comey got chewed out but not charged for was his chewing out Hillary Clinton in that July 2016 conference without charging her with anything.

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How long do you expect the ego-driven, cobbled-together spectacle on June 12 to dominate the news? (Original Post) ProgRocknProgPol Jun 2018 OP
Which channel? oberliner Jun 2018 #1
All of them, but you raise a good point. Here are my guesses. ProgRocknProgPol Jun 2018 #3
There ya go oberliner Jun 2018 #4
Don't know but the G7 colors it manor321 Jun 2018 #2
On Friday the 15th RockRaven Jun 2018 #5
Also the deadline for Cohen's team to handover everything. triron Jun 2018 #6
Ooooh! 2naSalit Jun 2018 #7
I hope so ooky Jun 2018 #11
It isn't something "cobbled together" soryang Jun 2018 #8
Compare and Contrast this Summit to the Inter-Korea Summit in late April ProgRocknProgPol Jun 2018 #9
It's a dog and pony show BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #12
Trump is a loud-mouth. Will he be locked up in prison when he boasts of the US to DPRK citizens too? TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #10

ProgRocknProgPol

(143 posts)
3. All of them, but you raise a good point. Here are my guesses.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 10:01 PM
Jun 2018

a - praise for Trump getting this far if the result is bad
b - genuine, effusive praise (admittedly some of which he will deserve but not enough to cancel everything else being done under his administration) for the result if it is good

Fox - a: 1 month
b: until the 2018 midterms

CNN - a: 1 week
b: 2 months (or until any large tariffs or large tragedies strike the US)

MSNBC - same as CNN

C-SPAN - a: 2 days
b: 1 month (or until any other large news story takes hold)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. There ya go
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 10:03 PM
Jun 2018

I think Fox will run a "Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize" script, while MSNBC will go back to the Mueller investigation pretty quickly.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
2. Don't know but the G7 colors it
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 10:01 PM
Jun 2018

I think the G7 disaster might very well allow the press to properly portray the whole effort (G7 + Singapore) as a joke.

IMHO, we can rely on Trump to completely screw it up.

RockRaven

(15,010 posts)
5. On Friday the 15th
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 10:06 PM
Jun 2018

Manafort has a court appearance and he's going into the slammer for (near) certain upon revocation of his bail. That's going to be a big deal, cable news-wise.

ooky

(8,929 posts)
11. I hope so
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 02:11 AM
Jun 2018

This court has been so accomodating to Manafort I'm still not convinced they won't just slide a couple more ankle braclets over his free arms and double his bail.

soryang

(3,299 posts)
8. It isn't something "cobbled together"
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 12:19 AM
Jun 2018

It's something that both Korean states want to happen. While the preparations have been underway for a relatively short period, they are picking up at the point where prior negotiations failed. The real fear in certain quarters is that the talks and the ongoing negotiations will succeed. Brian Hook, at the State Dept, indicated he expects that the process will take a couple of years.

https://www.38north.org/2018/06/lsigal06062018/

First Ignore, Then Disparage: Reporting Trump’s Nuclear Diplomacy
BY: LEON V. SIGAL

It's a positive development as long as we are diplomatically engaged and certainly better than being on the brink of a possible nuclear conflict or another Korean war.

ProgRocknProgPol

(143 posts)
9. Compare and Contrast this Summit to the Inter-Korea Summit in late April
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 01:44 AM
Jun 2018

Inter-Korea Summit:
Building finalized a month in advance
Rigorously planned agenda
Not a shred of doubt about whether it would take place (barring tragedies that thankfully did not happen)

This Summit:
Building finalized only a week in advance
Prioritizing improvisation and gut feelings with the explicit threat to walk away during the first few minutes
Canceled with less than a month to spare before resuming with less than two weeks to spare

This summit (not the engagement plan with North Korea) is cobbled together especially in contrast to the Inter-Korea summit. This does not mean that it will not succeed, and I am not making any intentional implications to that effect.

Also, I can't speak for anyone else, but as for my fears, I make those clear in the other posts I have made on this topic. If you don't want to look through my DU journal I will repeat them here: I do want peace on the Korean Peninsula. I wouldn't even object to Trump getting the Nobel Peace Prize for successful denuclearization. I'm just worried that this will completely overshadow all of the heavy damage I see Trump and his administration doing to this country (reckless debt ballooning, reckless deregulation that will almost certainly damage our environment, comical level of corruption and graft bolstered through legislature discriminating the most vulnerable, and comically transparent protectionism against our democratic allies in favor of authoritarians and kleptocrats) and give them enough of a boost to further dig into the damage for another 2.5-6.5 years. If this does not happen, I'll stop worrying.

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