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highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 10:35 AM Jun 2018

Krugman slams media for bothsidesing political debate where one side is "completely insane"

Great Twitter thread from Paul Krugman this morning, starting here:






It's normal to feel that people you disagree with politically are offering bad solutions to our problems. But Trump has brought something new: his policy agenda is almost entirely directed at problems we don't have -- problems that exist only in his warped imagination 1/


These include:
- A wave of violent crime by undocumented immigrants
- Massive illegal voting by the same
- Massive Canadian tariffs against US goods
- Conspiracy by the Elders of Zion to take over the world

OK, he hasn't actually gone after point #4, but give him time 2/


Journalists obviously have a hard time coping with all of this. They're afraid to say that the president is completely out of touch with reality -- that sounds "unbalanced." So, all too often, they pretend that he's talking about something real 3/


This amounts, in practice, to huge pro-Trump bias: you're bothsidesing a debate where one side isn't even wrong, just completely insane And the other dodge -- instead of talking about the substance, talk about how it's playing with Real Americans in diners -- is just as bad 4/


There's a test taking place as you read this: Trump defenders are out there claiming that Justin Trudeau, not Trump, blew up the summit. This is pure gaslighting; how many reporters will pretend to take it seriously? 5/
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Krugman slams media for bothsidesing political debate where one side is "completely insane" (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 2018 OP
Krugman should malaise Jun 2018 #1
Kick for Krugman! Cha Jun 2018 #2
K & R...for visibility... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #3
Great thread. Shanti Mama Jun 2018 #4
They're normalizing the serial arsonist dalton99a Jun 2018 #5
Lest We Forget, the Mainstream Media is Profit-Based, FIRST dlk Jun 2018 #6
And only public news media, otherwise people will still turn to for-profit media. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #14
Yep ck4829 Jun 2018 #24
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #7
One side is insane, the other has allergies grantcart Jun 2018 #8
But their allergies! ck4829 Jun 2018 #25
I have always said the not every story has two sides... louis c Jun 2018 #9
Yep!!! (K&R) Puzzler Jun 2018 #10
K&R. Spot on! KPN Jun 2018 #11
K&R demmiblue Jun 2018 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Jun 2018 #13
These are not delusions zentrum Jun 2018 #15
K&R BootinUp Jun 2018 #16
It's like debating the flat earth society. BarbD Jun 2018 #17
It's a waste of fornicating time too. 47of74 Jun 2018 #18
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Jun 2018 #19
THIS: Amaryllis Jun 2018 #20
Chuck Todd uponit7771 Jun 2018 #21
Offering solutions to problems that don't exist The Wizard Jun 2018 #22
Kick ck4829 Jun 2018 #23

dlk

(11,578 posts)
6. Lest We Forget, the Mainstream Media is Profit-Based, FIRST
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jun 2018

They will not ever report on or write anything substantial that over time might alienate a large percentage of their customers, no matter what. Trump could set fire to the White House; it wouldn't matter. Corporations may not actually be people but they do exist to make profits from people. Now, more than ever, we need permanently-funded, public news media that reports only facts, not talking points and spin. The philosophy that every entity should be profit-based has harmed us immeasurably.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. And only public news media, otherwise people will still turn to for-profit media.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jun 2018

But that won't happen. So, Democrats need to be demanding media literacy be taught in every school. And they need to change the narrative about the media. Take control of the narrative for a change instead of being on the defensive as they have been for as long as I can remember. "Liberal media" claims have absolutely dominated.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
9. I have always said the not every story has two sides...
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jun 2018

...an example would be "tell me the defensible postion for the Holocaust?"

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. These are not delusions
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 12:38 PM
Jun 2018

…of his insane mind.

These are carefully crafted lies and memes and dog whistles and manipulations fashioned by Miller an Conway and others to drive up his base support, and to serve his ability to trade American welfare for lucrative deals abroad, and to please his narrow corporate supporters (Mercers et al).

He's only as mad as Goebbels was—hideous but utterly deliberate and knowing. He knows how to dominate the media and that's what he's doing.

BarbD

(1,193 posts)
17. It's like debating the flat earth society.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jun 2018

You can't reason with unreasonable people. Sometimes the other side is just plain nuts.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
18. It's a waste of fornicating time too.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jun 2018

Arguing with Branch Trumpvidians or the Head Trumpvidian is like trying to teach a pig to dance and sing.

The Wizard

(12,549 posts)
22. Offering solutions to problems that don't exist
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 07:43 AM
Jun 2018

is a diversion from Trump's Treasury looting. The media just wants access to power, truth be damned.

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