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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt this point, I can only conclude that the Madman actively enjoys pathologically lying.
Yesterday, he tweets this:
Link to tweet
Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Fair Trade is now to be called Fool Trade if it is not Reciprocal. According to a Canada release, they make almost 100 Billion Dollars in Trade with U.S. (guess they were bragging and got caught!). Minimum is 17B. Tax Dairy from us at 270%. Then Justin acts hurt when called out!
6:05 PM - 10 Jun 2018
Problem is, a couple months ago--in front of his donors--he said this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/03/14/in-fundraising-speech-trump-says-he-made-up-facts-in-meeting-with-justin-trudeau/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.217e4a78e0b7
President Trump boasted in a fundraising speech Wednesday that he made up information in a meeting with the leader of a top U.S. ally, saying he insisted to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that the United States runs a trade deficit with its neighbor to the north without knowing whether that was true.
Trudeau came to see me. Hes a good guy, Justin. He said, No, no, we have no trade deficit with you, we have none. Donald, please, Trump said, mimicking Trudeau, according to audio of the private event in Missouri obtained by The Washington Post. Nice guy, good-looking guy, comes in Donald, we have no trade deficit. Hes very proud because everybody else, you know, were getting killed.
... So, hes proud. I said, Wrong, Justin, you do. I didnt even know. ... I had no idea. I just said, Youre wrong. You know why? Because were so stupid. And I thought they were smart. I said, Youre wrong, Justin. He said, Nope, we have no trade deficit. I said, Well, in that case, I feel differently, I said, but I dont believe it. I sent one of our guys out, his guy, my guy, they went out, I said, Check, because I cant believe it.
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The Office of the United States Trade Representative says the United States has a trade surplus with Canada. It reports that in 2016, the United States exported $12.5 billion more in goods and services than it imported from Canada, leading to a trade surplus, not a deficit.
So, just for a recap:
1. Trump says something to a foreign leader that is untrue.
2. Foreign leader calls him out on the statement.
3. Trump admits (to his donors) he knew what he said was not true. In other words, a lie.
4. Trump repeats that same exact lie to the entire American people, not caring about the fact that he previously admitted it was a lie.
It's the same exact thing about him claiming he didn't fire James Comey over Russia, even though there's ample TV footage of his prior interview with Lester Holt where he admitted firing James Comey over Russia.
He simply does not care about telling the truth, at all, to anyone, especially to the American people who he supposedly serves.
This is unbelievable behavior from a supposed President. Absolutely unbelievable. I'm at a complete loss for words.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)he has been doing it for almost 3 years every day on our TVs. Since he descended that escalator.
atreides1
(16,093 posts)If God came down from the heavens, and set Trump on fire saying that he was a liar...even then, Trump's supporters wouldn't believe it!!!
Hell, Franklin Graham and Pat Robertson would defend Trump...
fierywoman
(7,696 posts)dawnie51
(959 posts)the truth is whatever will get him the result that HE wants. This is not news to us, but it will be to the base who believed all his bullshit. Because he does not want them to have decent insurance, or wages, or healthcare, or education. And that will become clear to even the most hypnotized of them sooner rather than later.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)All he is concerned about is Ivanka and money.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)He lies not just to make himself look good (and lying really doesn't make him look good when it's so obvious), but because he believes in the particular moment that a certain thing either is or ought to be true. It's like he thinks stating something as a fact, even though it isn't, will make it be true - and he knows that at least his cult members will believe him even if nobody else does. An ordinary liar at least tries to be clever with his lies and will have an explanation if challenged. Spanky's pathology is so deep that even when confronted with incontrovertible evidence that he lied, he won't admit the truth. He's about as fucked up as it's possible to be.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,199 posts)Fully knowing his first hand knowledge about his collusion with Russia.
Admitting such collusion would be disastrous and would spell the end of his presidency and his freedom, so he creates a shell of a world where it is uncontested he never collided with the Russians.