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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:02 AM Jun 2018

Cuomo ahead of Nixon by 35 points in latest Siena poll





ALBANY — Gov. Andrew Cuomo is much more popular among New York Democrats than his celebrated primary challenger Cynthia Nixon, according to a Siena College Research Institute poll released Wednesday.

Cuomo led Nixon 61-26 overall in the poll, and he came out on top in each of the 23 demographic categories broken out in the poll. Self-identified liberals preferred Cuomo by 65-24, African-Americans, 74-17, and women, 63-26. Suburban voters, who have served as the best bellwether in most recent Democratic statewide primaries, favored Cuomo 76-13.

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https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2018/06/12/cuomo-ahead-of-nixon-by-35-points-in-latest-siena-poll-464799



Seems like a quixotic candidacy.
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Cuomo ahead of Nixon by 35 points in latest Siena poll (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 OP
This is great news Gothmog Jun 2018 #1
Has she been endorsed by any prominent organizations? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #2
Our Revolution Gothmog Jun 2018 #4
Thank you. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #7
Working Families Party brooklynite Jun 2018 #11
Siena College Research Institute...the very idea makes me giggle Johonny Jun 2018 #3
Why? Siena is a respected pollster. NY_20th Jun 2018 #5
They predicted 82% of their races correctly. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #9
Do you think Ms. Nixon will win ? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #6
No, I went to Siena Johonny Jun 2018 #14
He's polling well against Molinaro, too. NY_20th Jun 2018 #8
I would put the over/under on his race at 20. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #10
I agree. NY_20th Jun 2018 #12
20 might be conservative DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #13
Could be our next presidential candidate? pwb Jun 2018 #15
Not necessarily "a quixotic candidacy." Jim Lane Jun 2018 #16
Turnout in that primary was 9%. NY_20th Jun 2018 #17
The result was still enough to scare Cuomo into making an important policy change. Jim Lane Jun 2018 #18
WFP formally nominated Cynthia Nixon at their convention last month, NY_20th Jun 2018 #19
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
16. Not necessarily "a quixotic candidacy."
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jun 2018

Four years ago, Zephyr Teachout, campaigning on opposition to fracking among other issues, lost the Democratic primary to Cuomo by a similar margin. She was never a threat to win. Nevertheless, she ran a surprisingly strong race for someone who began with no name recognition and who had very little money with which to get her message to the voters. (The cowardly Cuomo refused to debate her.) Nevertheless, she got more than a third of the vote. She carried a couple dozen less-urbanized counties; although she was generally perceived as being to Cuomo's left, many voters in these rural areas were up in arms about fracking.

Cuomo was renominated and re-elected. A month after the election, he made a major change in course, announcing a ban on fracking.

No one can prove that Teachout's unexpectedly strong showing was a factor in Cuomo's about-face. All we know for sure is that many people believe it was a factor. Teachout had no chance of winning but her candidacy wasn't quixotic. At least one windmill actually fell over. With three months yet to go before the Cuomo-Nixon primary, it's too soon to dismiss her candidacy just because we all know she won't win.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
18. The result was still enough to scare Cuomo into making an important policy change.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jun 2018

The question is not whether Teachout had overwhelming support from millions of New Yorkers. The question is whether her candidacy, despite not securing her the nomination, accomplished something. It did.

Also, we haven't addressed the Working Families Party aspect. The WFP almost always cross-endorses the Democratic nominee for various offices. In 2014, progressive discontent with Cuomo was strong enough that there was significant support within the WFP to give its general-election ballot line to Teachout. In response, Cuomo narrowly headed off that nomination by making various promises that he then broke.

This year, it's possible that the WFP, for the first time in its history, will decline to cross-endorse the Democratic nominee for Governor. Cuomo will probably be strong enough against the Republican that he could win even if Nixon on the WFP line is drawing off some protest votes in November. He'd rather not test that prediction, though.

The Nixon candidacy gives the WFP a credible threat with which to push Cuomo to the left. Under New York's election laws, a minor party has a particularly strong incentive to cross-endorse in the race for this one office -- Governor -- because the party needs 50,000 votes for Governor on its line to maintain automatic ballot status for the next four years. Nixon, with her name recognition, could probably get the 50,000 votes even running against Cuomo. If instead the only opposition to Cuomo were some totally unknown random progressive, then the WFP would have to be very hesitant about nominating that person, and Cuomo would know that the WFP would have to be hesitant.

At this point, the WFP has endorsed Nixon but has not nominated her -- an important distinction. The threat of such a nomination may induce Cuomo to make some substantive concessions. In that case, even before a single vote is counted, Nixon's candidacy will have proved to be more than merely "quixotic".

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
19. WFP formally nominated Cynthia Nixon at their convention last month,
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jun 2018

guaranteeing she will be on the November ballot unless she opts to not be included on the GE ballot. Polling shows Cuomo leading in a three way race, but I would hope that Cynthia Nixon would not opt to go this route.

The WFP in New York state is very active and very good at getting out the vote. The reason I brought up the low turnout is that Teachout would have lost by even more if it was not for the WFP GOTV efforts.

As a lifelong New York State resident, I'm very aware of the long anti-fracking debate. My oldest, now adult, child was very involved in activism while a college student in a proposed fracking area.

Teachout did a great job of putting a focus on the debate, but Cuomo was simply waiting for the Health Commission to complete it's review, which was completed in December of 2014.

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