The RW is going to seize on it like a rabid dog with a bone.

Trump has ranting about this and plus Hillary never broke any laws or used a foreign government to get elected?

Otherwise, the report itself blows "deep state" up. I mean, it does anyway. But the conspiracy theorists will seize on anything they can find or make up to keep it going.

It is bad, but it doesn't change Mueller's got from all this.

answer them by pointing out that the report disproves another one of their false claims - that nobody in the FBI was trying to go easy on Hillary Clinton.

thing as the HEAD OF THE FBI making public disparaging statements about the email case without consulting the Attorney General, and releasing the letter to the republicans in Congress 11 days before a critical election, and allowing the propaganda machines to characterize it as the email investigation was reopened. That was a LIE, and wasn't corrected until very late Friday afternoon when a brief statement was made that nothing new was found

In reality, the IG investigation will change nothing either way, though I have no doubt our illustrious media will play up the republican point of view.

"Strzok, a key investigator on both the Clinton email case and the investigation of Russia and the Trump campaign".

If this is true, it's bad.

and you know something, it isn't going to change anything. Each side will use it for their own political propaganda, and no one's minds are going to be changed

but please, don't start with the hyperbole how bad this is. Trump didn't fire Comey because of that, and the fact is the report is not going to find Comey or anyone of doing anything "illegal". Inappropriate, yes, but that is what it is


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WASHINGTON — Senior F.B.I. officials who helped investigate Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign last year wrote in text messages that Hillary Clinton “just has to win” and described a potential Trump victory as “terrifying,” according to texts released Tuesday night.
A top counterintelligence agent, Peter Strzok, exchanged the messages with Lisa Page, a senior F.B.I. lawyer. Some messages criticized Mrs. Clinton’s team, the Obama administration, Congress and other Democrats. But the two appeared appalled at some of Mr. Trump’s comments during the campaign and feared that he would politicize the F.B.I.
For example, after Mr. Trump made an apparent sexual allusion related to the size of his hands, Ms. Page wrote: “This man cannot be president.” In another exchange, Mr. Strzok wrote of a potential Trump presidency, “I’m scared for our organization.” He also referred to Mr. Trump as a “douche.” The messages were turned over to Congress and obtained by The New York Times.
Mr. Strzok went on to become one of the top investigators for the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. But over the summer, Mr. Mueller removed Mr. Strzok from his team as soon as he became aware of the texts. Their release is certain to fuel suspicion among Republicans that the investigation into connections between the Trump campaign and Russia was politically motivated from the beginning.

The Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, is investigating the texts as part of a wide-ranging inquiry into how the F.B.I. handled its investigations into Mrs. Clinton’s personal email server and of the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia. It is highly unusual for the government to release these types of documents until such an investigation is complete. The move caught internal investigators by surprise.
F.B.I. regulations allow agents to express opinions “as an individual privately and publicly on political subjects and candidates.”
On July 27, Ms. Page wrote, “She just has to win now. I’m not going to lie, I got a flash of nervousness yesterday about Trump.” That text message was sent after the Clinton investigation had been closed. Days later, the F.B.I. began investigating possible coordination between Russian officials and the Trump campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/us/fbi-trump-russia.html

I am referring to the new texts about 'stopping Trump'.

The implication of that statement is not helpful. At all.

make any personal statement regarding who he did or didn't vote for, and I thought you were saying I did

I thought you were offering proof that he voted for Trump.

Carry on.

You're confusing implication and inference again.

You certainly found some red meat for yourself on this topic.

You're concerned. You're very, very concerned this could make "us" look bad. The important thing is that you continue to ignore that which doesn't validate the narrative of how bad this makes "us" look.

Good luck! We're rooting for you!

He was sent to HR to push papers around instead of working in the investigation.

WTF does that mean??

their feelings.

Unlike the HEAD of the FBI release a letter to the republicans in Congress 11 days before the election, against the orders of the Attorney General, and mischaracterized by the media that the email investigation was being re-opened, which was a complete distortion of what happened.

From my memory, both agents were immediately removed from the investigation, and I believe one was either forced or voluntarily left the FBI

Making it new news again...

They were on their government phones, so free access.

They'll ignore the text messages where they attacked Clinton, ignore the parts of the report that say the FBI helped Trump get elected, and just focus on one mans opinion that didn't impact the investigation.

Those 2 were having an affair and eventually Strozck who I believe was the one that said that decided to vote for Trump

Unless you have a link to him saying that, it's false.

"Dec. 12, 2017



"WASHINGTON — Senior F.B.I. officials who helped investigate Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign last year wrote in text messages that Hillary Clinton “just has to win” and described a potential Trump victory as “terrifying,” according to texts released Tuesday night.
A top counterintelligence agent, Peter Strzok, exchanged the messages with Lisa Page, a senior F.B.I. lawyer. Some messages criticized Mrs. Clinton’s team, the Obama administration, Congress and other Democrats. But the two appeared appalled at some of Mr. Trump’s comments during the campaign and feared that he would politicize the F.B.I.
For example, after Mr. Trump made an apparent sexual allusion related to the size of his hands, Ms. Page wrote: “This man cannot be president.” In another exchange, Mr. Strzok wrote of a potential Trump presidency, “I’m scared for our organization.” He also referred to Mr. Trump as a “douche.” The messages were turned over to Congress and obtained by The New York Times.
Mr. Strzok went on to become one of the top investigators for the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. But over the summer, Mr. Mueller removed Mr. Strzok from his team as soon as he became aware of the texts. Their release is certain to fuel suspicion among Republicans that the investigation into connections between the Trump campaign and Russia was politically motivated from the beginning.

The Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, is investigating the texts as part of a wide-ranging inquiry into how the F.B.I. handled its investigations into Mrs. Clinton’s personal email server and of the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia. It is highly unusual for the government to release these types of documents until such an investigation is complete. The move caught internal investigators by surprise.
F.B.I. regulations allow agents to express opinions “as an individual privately and publicly on political subjects and candidates.”
On July 27, Ms. Page wrote, “She just has to win now. I’m not going to lie, I got a flash of nervousness yesterday about Trump.” That text message was sent after the Clinton investigation had been closed. Days later, the F.B.I. began investigating possible coordination between Russian officials and the Trump campaign."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/us/fbi-trump-russia.html

That's what you asserted.

The link provided above yours specifically states:

"Strzok calls himself a “conservative Dem,” and grudgingly acknowledges in March 2016 that he’d vote for Clinton over Trump."

Times link. I will recheck my post and see if I PERSONALLY commented that I said he voted for trump, but I don't believe so

Who has yet to comment.

I'm also on my phone, not a computer with the ability to look for that quote easily, but it was between the 2 during the end when he was talking about there was no way he wanted Hillary to win.
I'll try to find the link tonight, but it was a transcript of calls between the 2 while they were having their affair and it came out when we found out about their affair.

But it will take me a while to find it

There were the actual texts online at the time. Right now I can only find the texts of the 49 pages that were previously unreleased. What I'm looking for is dated immediately before the election. They were discussing how he hates HRC now and how he had decided that maybe Trump wasn't as bad as she was. He then said he was thinking about voting for Trump then later said he was going to do it. She was saying "No no no no!!" but he was determined. I'll keep looking for the actual text, but this link has the basic idea that he hated HRC at the end.

Smack talking texts don't prove a thing... except wishful thinking (and, I think, protected political expression).

The part about Trump being a douche.... well, that's a proven fact.

So old news made worse and made new again.

I can’t inagine the amount of arrogance to send all those texts they did, while involved in the cases they did, on government issued phones on government lines.

and they'll be talking about this text exchange, and if they planted evidence, or framed anyone. And everyone will be digging into their old cases to see if they ever did anything even slightly untoward.

Make no mistake, this is a giant clusterfuck for the FBI, the DOJ and Mueller's investigation.

Had no evidence of being anything beyond a person's thought. ..

It's just a text... which easily could of been planted.

one convo between two agents and this constitutes "THE DEEP STATE"?

Then how were they stopped from achieving their goal?
Comey was still in office when Trump won.

That leaves thousands (?) of FBI agents that might have preferred to have Trump as their President! If the agents went beyond texting their desires to actually conspiring to influence and taint an investigation, they should be dealt with, regardless of who they supported.

Note to GOP hand wringers, not everyone in government voted for Trump, and some even talked shit about him prior to the election. Are they as upset about government employees that despised Hillary so much that in private conversations they imagined trying to stop the momentum of her campaign????? I can think of a few elected legislators that fucking admitted it after the Benghazi/Email server hearings.

Fuck off

FBI people should be smart enough to know that their gov't accounts can be monitored and/or seized. I've always suspected that could be the main reason why HRC had a private server--so that pals of assholes like Gowdy and Nunes couldn't spy on every little thing she did and twist it into a narrative to be used against her and the Obama administration.

I don't think I'd rule out the possibility that Strzok and Page deliberately created this bullshit in order to provide Drumpf with ammunition to use against the FBI/"deep state" in case he lost the election.

Seems a little too obvious for me to believe it wasn't a ruse to actually help Drumpf.

big deal! A private conservation between to people proves nothing. For all anybody knows the "we'll stop it" could've been referring simply and from what I see in the context there that is what I think.