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Luckovich: Sophie's Choice (Powerful) (Original Post) kpete Jun 2018 OP
... mcar Jun 2018 #1
Brings tears of pity and shame to my eyes Hekate Jun 2018 #2
what's powerful about a broken link? nt msongs Jun 2018 #3
Maybe It's Blocked Where You Are Leith Jun 2018 #8
I watched it again just two days ago. CTyankee Jun 2018 #30
Exactly! That is IT in a nutshell! trump, sessions and the other demons lunamagica Jun 2018 #4
The sad truth is that most of the wars in Central America malaise Jun 2018 #5
Too true but xxqqqzme Jun 2018 #9
Wish we could rec a comment rurallib Jun 2018 #10
Precisely malaise Jun 2018 #28
I have argued that consistently. Caliman73 Jun 2018 #12
And then they are called banana republics malaise Jun 2018 #16
Don't forget there is a huge problem with drug trafficing which uses Honsuras as a bridge lunamagica Jun 2018 #17
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, a must read. Greed is murderous OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #18
It never leaves my bedside malaise Jun 2018 #19
Me, too! Also OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #20
I have all but the last one malaise Jun 2018 #22
wm Shirer was one of the best US WWIi correspondence. OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #23
I have one more book of history that was veey helful, but the author is a known whackadoodle OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #25
I learned more about the US and the Phillipines malaise Jun 2018 #26
Thanks for the book recs! smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #27
I wish that wasn't true.... but it is. yardwork Jun 2018 #21
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2018 #6
K and R oasis Jun 2018 #7
Another kick for this harrowing cartoon. Luckovich is amazing lunamagica Jun 2018 #11
K&R n/t Glorfindel Jun 2018 #13
Most of the members of this administration and their henchmen TNNurse Jun 2018 #14
K&R! gademocrat7 Jun 2018 #15
Unfortunately, our Republican friends don't feel that dark-skinned Sophies are entitled to empathy sandensea Jun 2018 #24
Does Mike work for one paper or is his situation different than Rob Rogers? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2018 #29

Leith

(7,809 posts)
8. Maybe It's Blocked Where You Are
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:10 PM
Jun 2018

It's about a movie called Sophie's Choice, one of the saddest movies ever made.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
30. I watched it again just two days ago.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jun 2018

That awful scene where she is forced to give up her little girl is pretty hard to take.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
4. Exactly! That is IT in a nutshell! trump, sessions and the other demons
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:06 PM
Jun 2018

think this will be stop people from coming. They don't get (or care) that these parents are desperate; otherwise they wouldn't even think of taking such a perilous journey coming here, riding of top of the beast, facing all kinds of criminals...all they can think that if they get here, their children will LIVE.

What a horrific nightmare!



malaise

(269,054 posts)
5. The sad truth is that most of the wars in Central America
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:16 PM
Jun 2018

were financed by US Corporations and their government to prevent 'socialism' from spreading, to prevent workers from joining unions, to depress wages and on and on and on.
US governments facilitated access to the US to whoever supported them. Same shit here and many who supported them were allowed to run the drugs. It wasn't just Iran-Contra.

It is how we got here.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
10. Wish we could rec a comment
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:13 PM
Jun 2018

these poor people are either just bystanders or pawns in the power plays of the filthy rich trying to get richer.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
12. I have argued that consistently.
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jun 2018

When idiots are talking about "they're coming to take our jobs" or the need for walls and tougher immigration policies and they ask, "what do you propose?" My answer is, first, we need to STOP meddling in the affairs of Latin America. We have been down there messing things up since right after we became a country. We know the term "filibuster" from the political world in Congressional proceedings, but its original meaning was to describe the unauthorized wars engaged in by American businessmen against foreign countries. Since the early 1800's there were wealthy people raising armies and going down creating problems in Latin America.

Mexico's longest standing dictator, Porfirio Diaz, was supported by the US and had a council of advisers from the US and was influenced heavily by the Ambassador from the US. We sent Marines in the 1910's and 20's to over throw legitimate governments for the benefit of United Fruit Company, which is documented by Smedley Butler.

We have had a very strong hand in creating the problems that exist in Latin America that drive immigration, including those more recent events that you included in your post. These are the consequences of our actions.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
16. And then they are called banana republics
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jun 2018

forgetting that it was and is US banana companies who rule and are backed up by their home government.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
17. Don't forget there is a huge problem with drug trafficing which uses Honsuras as a bridge
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:01 PM
Jun 2018

between South America an the US.

And then there is also the deportation of MS-13 gang member from Los Angeles, who have gone to form their own gangs. There are thousands of them. That's hat the biggest source of violence, and countless of the mothers escaping do it because the "maras" are trying to recruit their sons, or take their daughters -some as young as 11 or 12, to be their "woman". They must comply, or die. The only other alternative is to flee.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
18. Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, a must read. Greed is murderous
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:02 PM
Jun 2018

This book blew my mind. I worked for one of the guilty corporations.

Here is the author, in his own words

https://m.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
20. Me, too! Also
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:25 PM
Jun 2018

Howard Zinn's History

Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine

and my first eye opener in High School

William Shirer's "Berlin Diary" - a beautifully written chronicle of the prelude to Nazism. An important read today, imo.

Here is the introduction and the first 130 pages of Shirer's book

https://books.google.com/books?id=oYoqAAAAQBAJ&pg=PP6&source=kp_read_button


Enjoy

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
23. wm Shirer was one of the best US WWIi correspondence.
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jun 2018

He has a gentle writing style, maybe because his topic is so violent and terrifying

Enjoy the Berlin Diary Snippet

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
25. I have one more book of history that was veey helful, but the author is a known whackadoodle
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:41 PM
Jun 2018

I keep these books together because I chronicled the territorial growth of the US Empire. My research and books are presently packed away.

Combined I found the whole story beginning with the Phillipines, if memory serves me. Sadly, the US has some serious 3rd world karma as you alluded above. We may have won the Cold War, but did we win the hearts and minds of all the countries we politically meddled with?

malaise

(269,054 posts)
26. I learned more about the US and the Phillipines
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:56 PM
Jun 2018

from Mark Twain than from anyone else. Not one big power is innocent - not one old or new. They collectively created this mess.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. Thanks for the book recs!
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:22 PM
Jun 2018

Some of these are on my list, but would really like to read William Shirer's Berlin Diary.

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
14. Most of the members of this administration and their henchmen
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:35 PM
Jun 2018

will not get this reference. They do not read. They are not literate. They get info from ignorant sources. They watch movies that are violent or fluffy without significant substance. They are not just embarrassing, they are dangerously hateful and bigoted.

sandensea

(21,639 posts)
24. Unfortunately, our Republican friends don't feel that dark-skinned Sophies are entitled to empathy
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:38 PM
Jun 2018

And Cheeto knows this.

"It's a winning issue for me - bigly!"

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
29. Does Mike work for one paper or is his situation different than Rob Rogers?
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jun 2018

Because I can see him being fired soon if he keeps this up.


I think this is the first cartoon I've seen him draw with no humor in it whatsoever. And so it shouldn't.

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