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no_hypocrisy

(46,130 posts)
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:51 AM Jun 2018

I'm a bit surprised that Japanese-Americans haven't publicly condemned

separating children from their parents. When FDR ordered Japanese-American families to be detained, as odious as that was, the families were kept together. Both detention and separation should be condemned.

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I'm a bit surprised that Japanese-Americans haven't publicly condemned (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jun 2018 OP
I had the same thoughts... FarPoint Jun 2018 #1
maybe they bornfree17 Jun 2018 #2
Japanese Americans are part of the many Americans who oppose and Protest what Trump is doing JI7 Jun 2018 #3
A million years ago and very different...don't defend the policy but it was during war. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #4
who knows some haven't. The news is carefully filtered beachbum bob Jun 2018 #5
There's support but things are complex ChicagoRonin Jun 2018 #6
Family members were separated and put into different camps oberliner Jun 2018 #7
The one Japanese American I work with whose dad was in one of the camps Lee-Lee Jun 2018 #8
I'm waiting for Latin American and Cairbbean governments malaise Jun 2018 #9
Ten days from now MurrayDelph Jun 2018 #10
I'm sure many have... lame54 Jun 2018 #11

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
1. I had the same thoughts...
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:53 AM
Jun 2018

Indeed, they were interned as well...I believe housing was better then too....

George Taki did a life story/ Broadway show anout his experience.

 

bornfree17

(89 posts)
2. maybe they
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:55 AM
Jun 2018

don't view it like you. They were American Citizens, those detained are undocumented trying to get into the country. As vile as I'm sure they think it is, it may not be the same to them

JI7

(89,252 posts)
3. Japanese Americans are part of the many Americans who oppose and Protest what Trump is doing
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:02 AM
Jun 2018

Japanese AMericans like most asians overwhelmingly support Democrats.

most Japanese Americans live in California and Hawaii and help make both solidly democratic leaning.

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
4. A million years ago and very different...don't defend the policy but it was during war.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:27 AM
Jun 2018

And why should any American be forced to attack or defend a policy based on their ethnicity or ancestors? Everyone should decry the torture and soon to be murder of children.

ChicagoRonin

(630 posts)
6. There's support but things are complex
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:28 AM
Jun 2018

I’m Japanese American. Most of the major JA social and political organizations and public figures have made statements against the separation policy. However, a good chunk of the JA community (and Asian Americans in general) is socially and fiscally conservative to a fault. Not to mention, a lot of the older folks are, well, frankly pretty racist (against other types of Asians as well as blacks, Hispanics, etc. I’m half Korean, so I’m acutely aware.). My parents aren’t, but my mom complains all the time about a rabid Trump supporting Asian friends. Also, there’s some former WWII internees who are knee-jerk Republicans because the camps happened on FDR’s watch, and they will NEVER side with Democrats no matter what.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Family members were separated and put into different camps
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:35 AM
Jun 2018

They were not kept together in many cases.

Following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, President Franklin D. Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, which permitted the military to circumvent the constitutional safeguards of American citizens in the name of national defense.

The order set into motion the exclusion from certain areas, and the evacuation and mass incarceration of 120,000 persons of Japanese ancestry living on the West Coast, most of whom were U.S. citizens or legal permanent resident aliens.

These Japanese Americans, half of whom were children, were incarcerated for up to 4 years, without due process of law or any factual basis, in bleak, remote camps surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards.

They were forced to evacuate their homes and leave their jobs; in some cases family members were separated and put into different camps. President Roosevelt himself called the 10 facilities "concentration camps."

http://www.pbs.org/childofcamp/history/
 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
8. The one Japanese American I work with whose dad was in one of the camps
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:16 AM
Jun 2018

Said this about it on his Facebook, I just went back to copy and paste the exact quote-

“It is not the same and I’m sick of people saying it it. My ancestors were law abiding American citizens who were locked up without due process, without an charges, without having committed any crimes at all. And with no idea when they would be released. These people now are not American citizens who are being locked up because they were ARRESTED FOR COMMITTING A CRIME and when you get arrested you don’t take your kids to jail.

These cases are not comparable at all. My dad and my grandparents were not arrested for breaking the law, they were just summarily locked away because of their race. And these CRIMINALS who are being arrested are being given due process, a day in court, and then being released. My ancestors were denied all due process and locked away indefinitely not just for a few weeks but years. And my grandfather had to liquidate his greenhouse business and sell it to a competitor for pennies on the dollar of the value of the real estate because he was only given a week to handle all affairs. Their home was supposed to be leased by a “friend” but he left for the Army and just locked the door and they came home to find it ramsacked and all their possessions either stolen or destroyed.

It’s not the same. comparing it is an insult to my ancestors and what they endured. My dad and grandparents were not criminals, these people are. My dad and grandparents were denied all due process rights, these criminals get theirs. These criminals are only being locked up and separated from their families a few weeks while their CRIMINAL cases are handled, my family was sent away for years.

Quit comparing them. It’s an insult to what my ancestors endured to compare a criminal going to jail for a few weeks to someone who broke no law being locked away for years and losing all they worked for based only on race.”

So there is a glimpse of what some of the attitude is. And yeah, he’s a more conservative type. Not a Trump flag waving, MAGA hat wearing type but the “I held my nose and voted for him anyway” type.

I have no idea how pervasive that kind of attitude is in that community, but looking at the post most of his family members and other members of the Japanese American community that posted there seem to be in agreement, saying they are mad at people comparing the two because it shows people don’t understand the history or demeans or minimizes what their ancestors went through.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
10. Ten days from now
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:27 AM
Jun 2018

I'll be driving past Manzanar. I would not be surprised to see a "Under New Management" sign out front.

lame54

(35,295 posts)
11. I'm sure many have...
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 12:19 PM
Jun 2018

Maybe not as an official group
But as individuals they are probably as sick over this as anybody else

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