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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 12:27 PM Jun 2018

Maybe Mueller doesn't want to make a deal with Manafort.

Mueller needs a trial. It will help him prove his case to the American people, including the walking dead. The trial will bring reality to the serious nature of the crimes that were committed. Its hard to call a trial fake news. Its hard to call it rigged.

One of the charges against Manafort is conspiracy. Spying, working with the enemy. This trial, I believe is very important to Muellers case against Trump.

Why would Mueller make a deal with a spy? He already has Gates and he is telling all.

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mucifer

(23,554 posts)
1. I am so angry at the msm constantly stating "trump said the investigation is BS" and NOT telling us
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 12:38 PM
Jun 2018

about the convictions and the confessions and how quickly things have moved in comparison to other investigations.

I am so sick of this.

Sometimes it feels like no matter what happens they will continue to report the news from trumps propaganda.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Our so called Main Stream Media has a Problem
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 12:49 PM
Jun 2018

they will not admit to. First is,they all gave free publicity to Trump in exchange for ratings and copy sales. And as the Public became fully aware of this,they are not going to admit it and will continue with their original plan. Ride the horse until it drops. Then lie about it.

Yes there are a few investigative Reporters doing their jobs,most are still the Cocktail Circuit Glam crowd.

elleng

(130,980 posts)
3. Mueller doesn't NEED anything,
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jun 2018

except the info/facts/evidence he's accumulating.

We the People would like to see a proper 'trial,' as in Impeachment, tho many people will reject/complain/even resist such.

former9thward

(32,028 posts)
4. You are wrong about everything in your post.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jun 2018

First, the charges are not about "spying, working with the enemy" No one is facing that charge or anything like it. You should try and understand "conspiracy". Conspiracy is a charge when you communicate with another person to commit a crime. The charges against Manafort have nothing to do with the Trump campaign per se. They are money laundering charges, most of which date years before the campaign.

You don't have a clue about what Gates is saying or not saying. No prosecutor, including Muelller, ever wants a trial. Trials are unpredictable and can go south on either side very quickly.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
5. Sorry, you are wrong.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jun 2018

Gates spilled his guts. He was facing serious charges and Mueller dropped most of the charges. That doesn't happen unless Gates gave Mueller something big.

Conspiracy, Lets see what happens at the trial. Mueller was dealing with Russians while he was running the campaign.

To say no prosecutor wants a trial is silly.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
6. That's possible, but
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jun 2018

it would be likely only if Team Mueller believed Manafort was the ceiling. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that Trump was aware of what was going on .....and Trump would thus be likely to be involved, as it is his nature to want to be "in charge."

While I agree with a previous post -- that the current charges are not about conspiring with the Russian mob during the campaign -- it also seems reasonable to think that Manafort will be facing further charges in that area, especially if he opts to not cooperate with the investigators & prosecutors. I am convinced that this is what Mr. Mueller is building up to. A recent court filing supports that.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
8. Mueller better prove his case to the American people.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 01:46 PM
Jun 2018

This is the biggest scandal in Americas history. Our entire democracy, our way of life is on the line. This is not a fucking joke. I will say it again. Mueller is going to shock the American people.

imanamerican63

(13,802 posts)
9. Mueller knows exactly what he's doing!
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jun 2018

We all can speculate the future and hope we are right! Let's leave it up to the experience of a wise man!

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
10. imanamerican, I agree and Mueller is also so much smarter than Trump and his lawyers.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 02:00 PM
Jun 2018

Mueller is a patriot, he knows whats on the line. Mueller is going to crush this plague that infests us. Who is going to set the future of America. Trump or Mueller. My money is on Mueller.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
11. My guess is, Manafort flips - Mueller fine with that.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jun 2018

Manafort doesn't flip, Mueller has a ton of hard copy bank maneuvers, etc. for conviction. Politically, it seems that somewhere there needs to be a high level conviction to settle this trump scandal mess.



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