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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA black woman was at a California pool on vacation. Then, a man insisted she shower before swimming.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-racial-pool-dispute-20180615-story.htmlCarle Wheeler was doing what one does on a vacation in the sun, hanging with her 5-year-old daughter at the pool at the hotel they were staying at in Pasadena, California, when a man approached them.
The man, who is white, asked Wheeler and her daughter, who are black, if they had showered before getting into the pool, Wheeler wrote on her Facebook page, "because people carry diseases into the pools and he doesn't want the health department to shut the pool down."
He then approached again, claiming he worked for the Health Department, Wheeler wrote, at which point she said she confronted him on what appeared to be "blatant racism."
"I let him know that being black is not a disease and showering would not wash the BLACK off our skin," Wheeler, a software engineer and single mother from Texas wrote. "I think it's awful that ANY man would think it's okay to essentially ask a woman and a little girl if we took off our clothes and scrubbed our naked bodies before getting into a hotel swimming pool."
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democratisphere
(17,235 posts)ChazII
(6,205 posts)and the folks have plexiform tumors and others tumors are asked to leave swimming pools. My heart aches for this mother and her child. The ignorance of humans.
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)"It's sad that I had to explain to my beautiful little five year old brown skinned girl why in 2018 a white man would think it's OK to ask a little girl and her mom if we showered our presumably dirty black skin before entering a swimming pool," Wheeler wrote on Facebook. "I have to teach my innocent child that no matter how much we educate ourselves with degrees, no matter what career we choose, no matter if we own a nice home in a gated community, or drive a nice car there are still people in this world who will not like us just because of the color of our skin."
Even worse, she wrote, was the feeling that people in positions of power "will not stand up for us when they know it's wrong that we are treated that way."
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,435 posts)When asked about racism she experience while in WH Michelle Obama expressed the following...
Denver Post. "Knowing that after eight years of working really hard for this country, there are still people who won't see me for what I am because of my skin colour.
coeur_de_lion
(3,680 posts)The same thing happened to my mother at her neighborhood pool. My mother is white. An old man yelled at her, called her dirty, etc.
Not saying it is true in this case, but it is *possible* that this guy is just some kind of busy body germ freak. That said, the way he handled it was awful.
My mother's feelings were very hurt. She stopped swimming. She really needed the exercise at her age (about 74) and I think her health declined as a result.
Also happened to me at my gym. And I had showered. But I'm not my mother and I told the complaining lady to stuff it. But she kept screaming at the top of her lungs. So I very quietly called her a busy body bitch and told her to get the F out of my way. I am not my mother! LOL
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)threaten to call the cops on her?
And there were three other people in the pool area. The mother said this man only approached them.
coeur_de_lion
(3,680 posts)I didn't know every detail, I just said it was POSSIBLE. Because the same thing happened to both me and my mother. In almost exactly the same way. No one else was approached. The police now that is fucking nuts. They should have locked up the guy who called the police for wasting police resources.
And thank you very much, I will do whatever I bloody well please with my advocacy.
Don't try to pick a fight with me when I was actually trying to be *helpful*.
DiverDave
(4,886 posts)Turbineguy
(37,346 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)I mean I always just did a quick drench, but it's not like I soaped up and scrubbed.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)But anything the soap will take off, the pool filters will catch (that's why there there), and anything the soap won't kill, the chlorine WILL (also why it's there).
I get it, I suppose, but germophobes are about the most irritating kind of OCD suffer-ers, IMO.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Im far from a germaphobe. But you roll the dice in a busy public pool or, worse, a water park.
IMO, an occasional earache or case of the runs is the cost of living on this planet.
Heck when I was a kid we used to ride our bikes through the streets when the sewers backed up during a heavy rain. I have an Infectious Disease Doctor friend that would have had a heart attack at the sight.
When I was a kid we had a local Cook County Forest Preserve pool that had a long upward shooting shower bar you had to walk naked straddled over before you could swim. It was an old pool - probably a WPA project from the 1930s. There were probably some bad e. Coli outbreaks back in the day.
Everything old is new again. My parents used to over cook pork for fear of trichinosis and joke about bedbugs. Now trichinosis is on the rise due to undercooked pork and bedbugs are ... everywhere. Shit maybe I should put my coat on the back of movie theater seats (ringworm) like mom always insisted.
coeur_de_lion
(3,680 posts)If you shower at home with soap why would you need to do it again before swimming?
When I showered before the pool it was just a rinse, because I was already showered at home.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)It's to wash off tanning oil and keep it from making the pool chemicals work harder, but they have a hard time keeping the pool looking good. Nobody really follows the rule. We have showers in the bathrooms in stalls and an open shower head beside the main pool entrance.
coeur_de_lion
(3,680 posts)Dont have soap in the shower so unless you show up with it you wont get the oils off.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)That's just what I was told. Every pool I've ever went to had this rule.
coeur_de_lion
(3,680 posts)This guy was a total douche. And whoever called the cops is a moron. Most likely racist too.
BUT, from my own experience some people just like to take on over stupid shit like that.
And this idiot in the stripey shirt is one of them. Nothing better to do.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)When combined produces de-humanizing episodes like this. Shameful.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)I know it's required at our pool where I live and at the swim club where I occasionally go with one relative and at the country club where I went to a pool party last year. Unless this woman was singled out and others were allowed to enter the pool without showering, her claim of racism is nonsense. I couldn't swear to it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't heath dept codes requiring showers in most places.
If she was singled out, that's another matter entirely.
mythology
(9,527 posts)an off camera voice said that the guy didn't ask anybody else. The veracity of that I obviously can't confirm.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)SweetieD
(1,660 posts)This was just some random dude who came up to them and LIED about working for the health department. He could have been a pervert for all they know. THEY WERE SINGLED OUT. There were others at the pool area. This guy was harassing a mother and child about whether or not they were clean.
Let me repeat, this guy did not work at the hotel. He did not work at the health department. He was not engaged in swimming and appeared to be alone.
It is 2018 not 1818, we don't have to show our freedom papers upon request of any random white man who asks. The police should have been called on this man. Instead, the manager threatened to call the police on the black mom for complaining.
brush
(53,792 posts)He wouldn't try that is she was there with her husband.
And the hotel guy was useless in how he handled it.
mythology
(9,527 posts)you kind of lose the benefit of the doubt as to your motives.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)DiverDave
(4,886 posts)Told him to shut his pie hole, or I would shut it for him.
P.S. please don't poop in the pool.
Rene
(1,183 posts)stepped into a shower....stepped into a 'foot bath' and THEN went into the pool. Simple thing...for the good of everyone..simple hygiene shouldn't be a big issue.
brush
(53,792 posts)black woman and a girl.
He wouldn't dare try that on a man.