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RandySF

(58,935 posts)
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 03:53 PM Jun 2018

Has anyone noticed higher food prices?

We've noticed a considerable increase in the price of groceries and I don't think we can pass it off as the cost of living in San Francisco, because we have access to chain stores such as Target, Safeway and Trader Joe's. What are you seeing in your towns?

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Has anyone noticed higher food prices? (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2018 OP
Yes ! donkeypoofed Jun 2018 #1
Along with everything else, that is where your tax cut goes nt doc03 Jun 2018 #2
Yep everything up about a dollar at BJ's Wholesale. Zoonart Jun 2018 #3
My family, saidsimplesimon Jun 2018 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #5
Haven't noticed unusual price hikes at TJ's... lame54 Jun 2018 #6
Yes I usually buy the same items every week and I noticed my produce is costing more kimbutgar Jun 2018 #7
I noticed the same with blueberries here. Ohiogal Jun 2018 #13
No one to pick them anymore KitSileya Jun 2018 #20
Picking blueberries is back breaking kimbutgar Jun 2018 #72
Same old, same old... BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #8
With more people going into services as opposed to other labor, wages won't go up. Blue_true Jun 2018 #24
Most new jobs are in service industry, not middle class jobs quartz007 Jun 2018 #51
Many of those are now being filled by seniors who can't live on their fixed BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #73
Many seniors I know are greedy! quartz007 Jun 2018 #74
I just had a discussion with the deli manager about their pricing. Frustratedlady Jun 2018 #9
Why so many obese people if food is high? quartz007 Jun 2018 #57
Cheap food is starchy and fattening Ohiogal Jun 2018 #61
You are 100% right about that quartz007 Jun 2018 #67
To answer your own question, check out the food carts as you shop. Lots of junk food, buns, bread Frustratedlady Jun 2018 #66
My son used to work in a discount grocery store Ohiogal Jun 2018 #70
You are right on mark! quartz007 Jun 2018 #71
Yes, but I buy a lot of produce and the prices have skyrocketed. I like specialty greens and a lot smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #103
Processed foods are cheap, but fattening. The Republicans are cutting food stamps. Shrike47 Jun 2018 #79
My food costs are ridiculously low! quartz007 Jun 2018 #80
Some people don't have the time or space to cook and store. haele Jun 2018 #106
Agree with every one of your points... quartz007 Jun 2018 #107
pork at 10.77 was either tenderloin or organic Kali Jun 2018 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author Kali Jun 2018 #83
Sorry, that was misleading. It wasn't $10.77/lb., it was $2.99 but wouldn't feed many Frustratedlady Jun 2018 #90
Where in the country are you? Kilgore Jun 2018 #104
I planted an HUGH garden this year jpak Jun 2018 #10
Impressive. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #25
You are more courageous than me. drray23 Jun 2018 #28
I invested in weed mats and cheap mulch hay this year jpak Jun 2018 #30
Ive been traveling for biz lately CA-gas is high there The food prices seem in line with my home lunasun Jun 2018 #11
In my area, Kroger plans to close all Kroger stores this summer and replace them struggle4progress Jun 2018 #12
Do you live in a relatively upscale area? Blue_true Jun 2018 #29
Cook large meals tazkcmo Jun 2018 #37
I don't have the time or discipline. Blue_true Jun 2018 #42
Fair enough tazkcmo Jun 2018 #43
Not really. This town has always been quite mixed: upscale areas only a few blocks from slum struggle4progress Jun 2018 #45
In a roundabout way, that's what happened here. DAMANgoldberg Jun 2018 #95
I'm buying most of my food at Aldi & ShopRite now. Their GS Thin Mint clones are better at $0.99 TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #14
All my shopping is Aldi or Buy One Get One at Publix Awsi Dooger Jun 2018 #92
It's California, expect the price of everything to just keep rising up ansible Jun 2018 #15
I would not be surprised to see the poor get squeezed out of some areas. Blue_true Jun 2018 #32
Yes! I've posted about it a few times on different posts. I can't believe what I'm spending Vinca Jun 2018 #16
I do food service purchasing at a college. johnp3907 Jun 2018 #17
And it'll all be going up a lot more duforsure Jun 2018 #18
The crops are not going to rot in the fields BlueSpot Jun 2018 #97
Just wait until Dump triggers a dollar crisis. roamer65 Jun 2018 #19
Yeah, the Bay Area is getting weird wonkwest Jun 2018 #21
My monthly food bill as a single runs around $160, $250 if I splurge. Blue_true Jun 2018 #36
Do you cook and/or have access to a bulk store like Costco or Sam's? wonkwest Jun 2018 #52
I cook, but cost is not a factor for me. Blue_true Jun 2018 #59
Ah, our comparisons make more sense then wonkwest Jun 2018 #85
Same here CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #64
I live in western New York.... SergeStorms Jun 2018 #22
I use canned corn a lot. If you buy a good brand, the quality is excellent. Blue_true Jun 2018 #38
I remember Ohiogal Jun 2018 #56
It's still early.... SergeStorms Jun 2018 #99
I have. But because I am single and don't need much, I am insensitive to them. Blue_true Jun 2018 #23
Same here. I buy what we need and do not "price" shop SoCalDem Jun 2018 #94
As soon as the "tax thang" went into effect! Kajun Gal Jun 2018 #26
I have not noticed much change in Chicagoland if one is willing to shop the sales Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #27
Been posting about the major price increases for months. Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #31
Yes ellie Jun 2018 #33
Yes! I live between Denver and Boulder and the food has definitely gone up. Laffy Kat Jun 2018 #44
Hi neighbor! ellie Jun 2018 #50
I have noticed higher prices for *EVERYTHING*. Initech Jun 2018 #34
I honestly have not noticed. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2018 #35
I spend more, but like you, I am single, so the price increase does not hurt. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #40
You spend more in taxes than food! quartz007 Jun 2018 #54
I never looked at it that way. Novel thought. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #60
Yes, the biggest jump was in the container of nuts I buy every month- Up from $14 to $17. n/t MerryBlooms Jun 2018 #39
wall street has been after groceries for a long time; it is the democratisphere Jun 2018 #41
I'm a couponer AC_Mem Jun 2018 #46
I almost posted about this earlier AmandaRuth Jun 2018 #47
Same here. I've started looking for recipes I like Hortensis Jun 2018 #65
Well, with my grandsons here during the days when school is out we usually are spending more logosoco Jun 2018 #48
Yes! NutmegYankee Jun 2018 #49
Food prices too high? Why so many fat people then? quartz007 Jun 2018 #53
Sugary, high calorie foods can be very, very cheap wonkwest Jun 2018 #58
Excellent point about high carb diets quartz007 Jun 2018 #63
I blame suburbanization wonkwest Jun 2018 #87
Agreed completely about wearing a device quartz007 Jun 2018 #89
You are so correct Wonkwest Ohiogal Jun 2018 #68
Because health food stores go broke in poor neighborhoods quartz007 Jun 2018 #69
I'll kind of say this wonkwest Jun 2018 #88
The only semi-vegetable thing I eat out of cans are beans ... canned veggies are AWFUL ... mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #101
Loss leaders wonkwest Jun 2018 #105
The healthiest and most nutritious food is the most expensive. NutmegYankee Jun 2018 #75
shitty high sugar and high fat "food" is subsidized and cheaper than healthy food Kali Jun 2018 #86
Exactly! DFW Jun 2018 #96
this really can't be a serious question, or ceratainly not a very well informed one. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #100
I have been noticing the slow creep up in prices for a while now dhol82 Jun 2018 #55
Yes CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #62
Gas, food, commodities, all are going up in price randr Jun 2018 #76
At our local Costco GP6971 Jun 2018 #77
No changes in my part of WA Kilgore Jun 2018 #78
Yes probably due to higher gas prices and the trucks getting products FloridaBlues Jun 2018 #81
not that much recently but it has gone up over time Kali Jun 2018 #84
I haven't noticed much MissB Jun 2018 #91
Yes! And every restaurant hands me a new menu. AwakeAtLast Jun 2018 #93
it's been going on for decades! some people will make every excuse in the book to explain it, TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #98
Things I wish for in my community lanlady Jun 2018 #102
And they are slicing meat ever thinner as well... icymist Jun 2018 #108

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
1. Yes !
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 03:56 PM
Jun 2018

With gas prices being so high, I was fully expecting for things to cost more, but this is ridiculous

Response to RandySF (Original post)

kimbutgar

(21,164 posts)
7. Yes I usually buy the same items every week and I noticed my produce is costing more
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 04:09 PM
Jun 2018

$4.99 for 8 oz of blueberries and they are in season. Last year I got the same size for $1.99!

I buy this Trader Joe’s Pinot Grigio sparkling wine that is Italian. I suspect the price will be going up soon.

Ohiogal

(32,012 posts)
13. I noticed the same with blueberries here.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jun 2018

Last year used to buy them in season for $4 for 2 boxes. Now they are $3 a box and that is the sale price.

Ground turkey - the good hormone-free kind, has gone up .50/ lb since last year. I buy ground beef maybe 4 times a year. It's gotten almost as expensive as steak

Store- made salmon burgers are over $4 apiece in the deli, they were $3 apiece last summer.

We also have a veggie garden, lettuces, tomatoes, green beans, cukes, snap peas, peppers, and herbs.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
20. No one to pick them anymore
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jun 2018

Bound to drive the price up when the farmers can't harvest their produce because their slave labor is being rounded up and put in camps.

kimbutgar

(21,164 posts)
72. Picking blueberries is back breaking
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:54 PM
Jun 2018

My uncle grew blackberries on his farm in Michigan. My grandma said if you pick the blueberries I’ll make a pie for you. It took me 2 hours picking those berries in hot weather. I was and am a city girl. It was hard to pick the berries and they are prickly. A machine can’t harvest blueberries.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. With more people going into services as opposed to other labor, wages won't go up.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:58 PM
Jun 2018

Except for the highly skilled services that require extensive training, new people can be hired easily, so no one push for higher pay.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
73. Many of those are now being filled by seniors who can't live on their fixed
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:59 PM
Jun 2018

incomes too. Too, too sad for future generations.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
74. Many seniors I know are greedy!
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:03 PM
Jun 2018

They keep working not because they need the money to live, but want the additional money to live BIG. So you are right, it is sad for young people.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
9. I just had a discussion with the deli manager about their pricing.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jun 2018

For instance, I wanted a serving of plain old potato salad. It is nothing but potatoes and dressing. Nothing else. The other choices have raw onion and I don't care for that. I bring it home and add a hard boiled egg, relishes and a little seasoning. I got a very small container, which ended up under 1 pound, but was $5.71. The price/lb. was $6.99, so I asked why they had it priced so high...I can buy steak for that. He said it was the name. Bull. Last week, I picked up a quick meal/takeout of beef bits and ends of brisket. Nothing fancy at all. When I got to check-out, I saw it was $12.99. I went back to the deli on the way out of the store and stopped to talk with the deli manager. I told him he was pricing his items as if it was a restaurant. The only thing I saved by buying it at the deli was the tip...no tip.

I always buy green top carrots. For a long time, they were 99 cents/5 nice long carrots. Overnight, they jumped to $1.50/5. They had just built a new gas station/convenience store/car wash. I guess we're going to pay for it this year.

The bakery doubled the price of their breakfast rolls/donuts and the people rebelled. They couldn't give away those donuts and they finally dropped the price back to normal. That was nearly a year ago and they obviously have lost their old customers. They never empty those shelves anymore.

Meat is out of sight. I just picked up a small pork roast (quit eating beef because of the price...I'm buying a beef roast, not the cow) and it was $10.77. For PORK~ I could hold it in the palm of one hand. What's going to happen when countries stop buying pork due to the tariffs? They'll beg us to buy it. By then, I may be a vegetarian.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
57. Why so many obese people if food is high?
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:27 PM
Jun 2018

Diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer, joint & back problems are all going up because Americans are fatter than ever.

Food needs to go much higher, to reduce healthcare costs. Like it is in Europe. No wonder Obesity is lower there.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
67. You are 100% right about that
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:40 PM
Jun 2018

I eat a lot of lentils, garbanzo beans & basmati rice. Very cheap compared to beef steak & chicken breast. And keeps my cholesterol in control.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
66. To answer your own question, check out the food carts as you shop. Lots of junk food, buns, bread
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:39 PM
Jun 2018

and bologna/hot dogs. Very little fruit or veggies. I make a lot of soup, which takes a variety of veggies. You just don't see things like celery, carrots or even potatoes in carts. No salad makings. I don't even notice people buying frozen veggies or fruit. I bought one orange for the orioles, today, and it was just under $2. That answers my question about fruit. It is outrageous here in the Midwest since most has to be shipped in.

I also notice a ton of pop going out the door.

People are a lot less active. They are watching TV, on the computer or cells, etc. We ride to mow...ride to golf...drive from one place to another instead of walking.

Ohiogal

(32,012 posts)
70. My son used to work in a discount grocery store
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:51 PM
Jun 2018

He said people bought soda pop like the world was going to end. Many folks would load up 2 carts with just pop. I have seen that myself. My late cousin drank a 12 pack of Diet Coke every DAY. Why are we so addicted to soda in this country? And Trump certainly doesn't set a very good example.
I guess pop, to some, is a cheap indulgence.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
71. You are right on mark!
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:52 PM
Jun 2018

As I wrote in another post, basic food is very cheap compared to beef, fish & other meats.

I consume lots of Lentils & Garbanzo beans. Both can be made very tasty by adding onions and spices & tomato sauce. And I eat them with wonderful Basmati rice (add a bit of oil & salt before cooking). Not only it saves me on food bills, it keeps my cholesterol down and my blood sugar under control, not to mention weight control as well.

I just made sweet potato soup with onions, tomato sauce & peanut butter. It was delicious, better than any tomato soup, had plenty of fiber and vitamins.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
103. Yes, but I buy a lot of produce and the prices have skyrocketed. I like specialty greens and a lot
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 08:42 AM
Jun 2018

of organic stuff, but still it's ridiculous. I don't buy everything organic, but for tomatoes, greens, mini-cukes, peppers and a few other items I do. It's very expensive to eat healthfully and I suspect that is why many people don't. Your money goes a lot further when you make unhealthy food choices.

I know that it takes some creativity. You could make good lentil/bean soups with veggies from the Haymarket here in Boston. Buy in bulk at cheap markets and freeze or can, etc., but not everyone has the skills/know how. I think that would be a great community service. Teaching people how to stretch their food dollar and do so in a healthful way.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
79. Processed foods are cheap, but fattening. The Republicans are cutting food stamps.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:43 PM
Jun 2018

Saying food prices should be higher is saying some people should starve.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
80. My food costs are ridiculously low!
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:47 PM
Jun 2018

Because I cook a lot from scratch, using lentils, pinto beans, garbanzos, Basmati rice, onions, spices, raw carrots, cabbage and canned tomatoes & chili's.

Not only it is cheap, it keeps my cholesterol & blood pressure low.

haele

(12,660 posts)
106. Some people don't have the time or space to cook and store.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 06:10 PM
Jun 2018

Especially people who work two/three jobs and have a family living in basically a studio or one-bedroom apartment with a dorm fridge that has very limited freezer space. Some people live out of their car or live couch surfing, which is even more limiting. In those situations, you buy what you can eat that day, and that's pretty much cheap junk food.

Some people just can't handle left-overs - or eating the same thing time after time. Some people don't do well on rice (causes constipation for some), can't handle beans, cabbage or chilis in such a way that doesn't make family life smell miserable. And some people really do have an allergic reaction to legumes.

And if your kids decides they don't want a beans and rice stew for the third day in a row - no matter how well you cook it, that's still wasted food.

Mind you, because of both cost and time, I do a Sunday cook-out meal plan for the week, but there have been a lot of times where a week's worth of meals has sat in the freezer for over a month because spouse is literally sick eating the same basic meal after four days - gag reflex sick. He can eat it, but mentally he doesn't like the taste any more, no matter how much adobo or sirracha sauce goes in, and he just needs to have a break before he can go back to it. Some fish, or a salad, or something that needs to be made that day, which can be difficult with a working family when you don't get home until 6 at night and have to be in bed by 9. And the meal above aggravates his type 1 diabetes. Too much starch.

As helpful as your suggestion is, not everyone has the time or ability to follow your suggestion.

Haele

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
107. Agree with every one of your points...
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 07:42 PM
Jun 2018

And I have gone through all those exact experiences myself. When I and my spouse worked full time, we rarely cooked at home. Now retired, lack of time is never a good excuse.

But I got to tell you about my childhood, growing up in India in 1950's. Most people in those days could not afford any meat or fish or chicken. Even basic staples such as rice, beans & oil were too expensive for many. So, people were happy to eat the same "Daal" & rice or whatever they could get their hands on. My parents were middle class and yet we ate meat only one meal per week. Result was there were few obese people there in those days. Malnutrition kills much more slowly than eating too much.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
82. pork at 10.77 was either tenderloin or organic
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:25 PM
Jun 2018

cause you can find a LOT of pork for $1 to $2/lb. chicken the same. even beef has been going down. watch the sales and don't buy what isn't on sale. if you have even a small amount of freezer space you can still eat OK.

Response to Kali (Reply #82)

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
90. Sorry, that was misleading. It wasn't $10.77/lb., it was $2.99 but wouldn't feed many
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jun 2018

Once in a while, I get a strong urge to fix something different and that was today. The roast looked good, but I wasn't going to spend
that much. I'll let the urges ride.

Never go to the grocery while hungry.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
104. Where in the country are you?
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 08:55 AM
Jun 2018

I am in WA, and during yesterdays grocery run I paid $1.88 a pound for pork and $0.79 for a bag of carrots. We also bought potato salad and it was $3.29 a pound. This was at a Winco grocery store.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
10. I planted an HUGH garden this year
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 04:14 PM
Jun 2018

Squash
Potatoes
Tomatoes
Peppers
Herbs
Cabbage
Broccoli
Brussels sprouts
Kale
Onions
Garlic
Beets
Carrots
Parsnips
Yellow Eye Beans (baked beans)

Most of which should last me through the winter...

drray23

(7,634 posts)
28. You are more courageous than me.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:18 PM
Jun 2018

We only planted tomatoes, eggplants and peppers. I am so busy at work I find it hard to plough, plant, weed, water, etc... a big garden.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
30. I invested in weed mats and cheap mulch hay this year
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jun 2018

Everything that is up, is mulched - cuts way down on weeding and watering.

I also inherited a massive Troy-bilt rototiller from my Dad.

Makes fast work of tilling things up in the spring.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
11. Ive been traveling for biz lately CA-gas is high there The food prices seem in line with my home
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jun 2018

town in Chicago. San Fran didnt stand out when I went for groceries but that was limited . Higher and probably going higher nationwide and gas prices may add to costs esp if out of the metro areas or areas with high gas prices( over .50 -.75 more than at home +did not note diesel) Gas could be higher due to taxation which has other benefits so hard to compare

Eating prepared food out is outrageous now anywhere imo compared to a few years ago

of course Jack or TB, or MCD will give you filler food for a buck-1.39 anywhere it's at I guess

struggle4progress

(118,297 posts)
12. In my area, Kroger plans to close all Kroger stores this summer and replace them
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jun 2018

with pricier Harris-Teeter outlets (also owned by Kroger)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. Do you live in a relatively upscale area?
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jun 2018

Grocery chains love those, they can bring in a lot of high margin stuff. I don't you can avoid that unless you have a Walmart that sells grocery near, but they generally don't come into affluent area. Grocery chains where I live don't put stores near enough to other chains to allow price shopping. You can maybe drive to other areas, but that comes with it's own set of problems, like the drive and keeping some things cold.

I wish grocery chains offered more singles packaging. I freeze a lot of stuff now because I am busy enough that leaving it fresh, especially meat, may have me coming home to a dead smelling refrigerator, because I can't use it up fast enough freezing allows me to partition things down to single sizes.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
37. Cook large meals
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:40 PM
Jun 2018

Then portion it in single servings. Lasagna, meatloaf, casseroles. I am single but always get a 10 lb bag of potatoes. I bake some then after cooling, cube them and freeze. I also shred some raw and freeze that also. I leave the remainder for the occasional baked potato or mashed or potato salad.

Just some examples.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. I don't have the time or discipline.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:50 PM
Jun 2018

Plus, I am relatively price insensitive, I notice price increases, but it is mostly academic to me, that won't stop me from buying.

It is great to see the discipline that you exercise around eating, that must both save you money and allow you to eat healthier.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
43. Fair enough
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:58 PM
Jun 2018

And good for you, by the way. Also, I really appreciate your honesty to yourself, not really to me. That's a good thing!

I grew up "poor" and have returned to that status since 2008. Luckily I have the background for it. My very wise grandpa told me, among other things, "If you're looking in your wallet for your wealth you'll always be poor." , so it's not a big deal.

Peace!

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
95. In a roundabout way, that's what happened here.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:18 AM
Jun 2018

BITD: You had Kroger, Food Lion, Harris Teeter, and Winn-Dixie.

Kroger sold to Bi-Lo, which bought out Winn-Dixie. Bi-Lo rebranded their markets as Harvey's, their 'value' brand. They have since left the market.

Food Lion is headquartered in Salisbury, 40 mi NE, so they flooded the area, despite being owned now by Ahold (Giant MD, Hannaford, etc.)

Harris Teeter is still headquartered here and has many stores (only 1 in a non-upscale neighborhood, the original on Central Ave) expanded to the Atlanta and Nashville markets and the DC area. The company that now owns them had a major hand in shooing them from both locals.

Wal-Mart and Aldi have the low end wrapped up; Whole Foods/Amazon, Publix, and Earth Fare have the high end covered; no room for the middle ground.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
92. All my shopping is Aldi or Buy One Get One at Publix
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:06 PM
Jun 2018

I despise abbreviations. That's why I spelled it out. Likewise, the term GOTV drives me nuts around here.

Chase Freedom card has been 5% on groceries this quarter. Combined with Aldi and Buy One Get One emphasis, my grocery bill has been fine.

For anyone who it not in tune with value and sloppily shows up without price awareness, they are going to screw themselves regardless of inflationary period or not.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
15. It's California, expect the price of everything to just keep rising up
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jun 2018

Life here is miserable if you're poor.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
32. I would not be surprised to see the poor get squeezed out of some areas.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jun 2018

Southern California, Silicon Valley, New York City, the Boston Metro area, the Miami Metro area, likely other places in the country with vibrant economies. Politicians don't have the stomach for agressive rent control, or the foresight to build city and state owned reasonably priced housing. I worked briefly with a Ph.D. in California once about a decade ago. He and his wife, who was also a highly paid technologist, bought a small house that had a postage-stamp sized yard in a Silicon Valley city for $780,000. I swear, if one house in that development caught fire, all of them would have burned down, that was how close they were.

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
16. Yes! I've posted about it a few times on different posts. I can't believe what I'm spending
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:23 PM
Jun 2018

on groceries these days. I bought a little bag of fresh black cherries and it was more than $10. Even run-of-the-mill basics like tomato sauce or black beans have gone up about 25% from a year ago. And coffee . . . forget about it. It's gone up $2.00 a bag in the last couple of months.

johnp3907

(3,732 posts)
17. I do food service purchasing at a college.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jun 2018

All of our suppliers have told us the price increases were due to shipping issues. I tried to watch a video about it that our produce supplier posted, but I don’t have speakers on my work computer and when I saw “communist bang factory” in the auto generated subtitles I knew I wasn’t going to learn much.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
18. And it'll all be going up a lot more
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:32 PM
Jun 2018

As the tariff's increase, the crops rot in the fields, and inflation hits everything from what they've done.

BlueSpot

(855 posts)
97. The crops are not going to rot in the fields
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:24 AM
Jun 2018

Well, I guess I can't say that for all crops but I'm guessing you're referring to soybeans since they are on China's list for retaliation. If China buys all their soybeans from Brazil and Argentina (our major competitors), those countries will have precious few tons to sell elsewhere in the global market. Right now, Argentina is buying US soybeans because their last crop was poor. Even if China buys the bulk of the supplies of soybeans from South America, that just means other countries will have to buy ours. There are only so many places to shop.

The only reason our crops would "rot in the fields" would be because of excessive rain during harvest. That could always happen but it wouldn't be related to tariffs.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
19. Just wait until Dump triggers a dollar crisis.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jun 2018

It’s coming.

You will think today’s prices are cheap.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
21. Yeah, the Bay Area is getting weird
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jun 2018

I just go with Costco. I have the Safeway app on my phone, so I'll draw up a coupon list throughout the week and then go. It's super helpful. Trader Joe's has been the strangest to me. I used to go there often because it's relatively cheap, but more and more I just can't justify the place. Milk and eggs are the best thing I can say for them - and eggs are way up. Same with peanut butter for no reason.

But again. Costco. All our meat, dairy, eggs, and bulk fruits and veggies come from there. I use local markets to supplement whatever produce I need for a particular meal.

Fortunately, I cook. So the food budget for the two of us comes to about $150 a month for what we eat in. We're gay DINC people, so we eat or order out for dinner once or twice a week on average.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. My monthly food bill as a single runs around $160, $250 if I splurge.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:37 PM
Jun 2018

So, you are doing well as a couple. I don't eat out much, other than lunch.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
52. Do you cook and/or have access to a bulk store like Costco or Sam's?
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:18 PM
Jun 2018

That's honestly what makes the difference. If I bought the same things at a Safeway as I do at Costco, our food bill would be closer to yours if not more.

A sample monthly grocery list would be:

Staples:

2 ten lbs bags of frozen chicken - $48
2 bags of broccoli florets - $8
4 dozen eggs - $10
2 gallons of milk - $5.59 (I think)
3 lbs bag of spinach - $5
4 packages of tofu - $5.25 (get it from an asian grocery)
2 giant bags of shredded cheese - $8
4 boxes of butter - (I think this is $10 now)

So three quarters of the food budget consists of staple foods we eat daily or nearly daily. However, what I listed above oftentimes lasts a month and a half, especially with things like the butter or shredded cheese. The rest is on what other kind of produce or fruit we may feel like, or whatever strikes our fancy or is on sale. We're not above a $1 box of mac and cheese for a side. There are things like a 25 lbs bag of rice for $20 or big bags of beans for similar. But those things last us months.

But Costco is very close to us, and I own a car, so I know we're a bit privileged in that way.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
59. I cook, but cost is not a factor for me.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jun 2018

The biggest issue is whether I can turn the food over fast, and I don't like eating the same thing more that twice a week. I even have to insure that I don't buy more than four bananas a week, because I tire of the taste fast, melon is better, I can eat a lot of that, as long as it is not cantaloupe (I can only eat a little of the ripest, most flavorful ones before I can't eat more). Screwed up, I know, but that is just me.

I just admire your discipline about shopping, I never had that.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
85. Ah, our comparisons make more sense then
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:33 PM
Jun 2018

My diet is deadly, deadly dull due to a work out regimen, so I'll seriously eat roughly the same meal several times a week, with breakfasts and lunches being incredibly similar. Meal Prep Sundays are a thing in my house. Much of the time just for time's sake, but it's also cost efficient.

Financially we're good. I'm just very boring, lol.

Food turnover is real. I don't do leftovers. Outside of the food prep, I always tell my bf, "If it goes in that fridge, we both know it's never coming out."

CountAllVotes

(20,876 posts)
64. Same here
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:37 PM
Jun 2018

and no, we never eat out. Sad when you are counting how much you spend on FOOD of all things. Never did that until very recently!



SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
22. I live in western New York....
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jun 2018

and fresh fruits/vegetables are outrageous. I guess I'm going to have to buy canned, which I don't really like at all, but ya' gots to have the fruits and veggies!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. I use canned corn a lot. If you buy a good brand, the quality is excellent.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:40 PM
Jun 2018

I don't shop at bulk stores, but that may be an option for some, it doesn't work for me due to me being single.

Ohiogal

(32,012 posts)
56. I remember
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:26 PM
Jun 2018

All the wonderful blueberries and peaches at the fruits stands in the Western New York wine country area when we used to vacation there! I loved picking blueberries at the pick-your-own farms. They were so good!

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
99. It's still early....
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 03:12 AM
Jun 2018

in the growing season yet. Blueberries should be coming very soon. Bumper crops of strawberries this year, so that's good!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. I have. But because I am single and don't need much, I am insensitive to them.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 05:50 PM
Jun 2018

But when I do quick math, prices have increased by around 15-20% for chicken.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
94. Same here. I buy what we need and do not "price" shop
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:01 AM
Jun 2018

I buy our meat at the local meat market..

veggies from veggie store[/link

We order paper goods from Amazon
catfood & litter from Chewy.com

and the rest from local store

It costs what it costs

 

Kajun Gal

(1,907 posts)
26. As soon as the "tax thang" went into effect!
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:15 PM
Jun 2018

Since January. ALL our bills went up. Every one of them. So, we already lost our "major" (haha) tax break. And yes now, groceries. Calculate into this the tariff war thangy.

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
27. I have not noticed much change in Chicagoland if one is willing to shop the sales
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:16 PM
Jun 2018

Gas prices have been high though.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
31. Been posting about the major price increases for months.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jun 2018

And for those who shop Kroger/Smiths/Fred Meyers,your are going to see a price increase again on July first if not earlier. Got this from one of the local Mangers.

The Freight Surcharges are coming through the system. And for those who liked his or her Tax cut,well,that was eaten up with the Gas Price increase.

Oh,BTW,we have not seen anything yet in the Produce Supply Chain,with the heat out break in the South West,it is going to get down right ugly. No field hands and fewer Trucks to move the picked Produce to market.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
33. Yes
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jun 2018

I do all of the shopping and cooking at my house and food prices have gone up considerably here in Denver.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
34. I have noticed higher prices for *EVERYTHING*.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:30 PM
Jun 2018

I'm trying to rent a car for a trip and I can't find anything for a week that's less than $1,000. Shit, you could buy a car for that much!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
35. I honestly have not noticed.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jun 2018

Food prices go up and down, especially seasonal things.

I live alone, and do a fair amount of cooking from scratch, and I don't seem to be spending any more on groceries than I have in the past five years or so.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
54. You spend more in taxes than food!
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:23 PM
Jun 2018

As single, you pay higher taxes. Add up your federal, state, city, property, sales, etc. Even your phone and cable and utility bills have taxes. I bet you are spending more than double on taxes than food.

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
46. I'm a couponer
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:13 PM
Jun 2018

so I'm very conscious of the prices of everything and yes, I agree with you that not only are prices going up, but there is also another change. What you used to pay - and i'll just use an example - say, you paid $1.98 for 5 lbs of sugar, now you might still pay the same $1.98, but you are only getting 4 oz. And its everywhere.

I'm starting to very consciously stock and freeze - and prepare.

AmandaRuth

(3,105 posts)
47. I almost posted about this earlier
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:20 PM
Jun 2018

responding to another post that had an article about our booming economy, stating one of the reasons was no inflation. I deleted my post because it seemed argumentative, which is the last thing I want.


no inflation, my skinny ass there's no inflation, there is mega food inflation, and I have been seeing it for a while now

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
65. Same here. I've started looking for recipes I like
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:38 PM
Jun 2018

for pork, which I've never cared for, because it's relatively less expensive.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
48. Well, with my grandsons here during the days when school is out we usually are spending more
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jun 2018

than usual...but it does seem like it is a LOT more than usual. Not seeing much good pricing in produce, haven't been to the produce stand yet. We went from a chilly spring to an already hot spring.

We had been doing a lot of shopping at Aldi, but we noticed it didn't seem as cheap as it had been. I do remember last year their potato chips were like $1.09 a bag, now they are $1.79 (so we aren't getting those!). And now that gas is higher it seems a better choice to just go to the closer Shop N Save and use the $15 off $75 coupon. Sometimes we would have to track that to make sure we made it to the $75, the past month we have easily gone over.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
53. Food prices too high? Why so many fat people then?
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:20 PM
Jun 2018

The last thing Americans should complain is food & restaurant prices. Try buying food in Europe. Or eating in restaurants in Europe.

I see fat people everywhere, even in poor neighborhoods. If food prices go much higher, there will be a huge reduction in heart attacks, diabetes, knee joint pain, hip joint pain, backaches, strokes, high blood pressure, even cancer.

Look at the positive side of higher food prices...improved health and longevity and reduced healthcare costs.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
58. Sugary, high calorie foods can be very, very cheap
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jun 2018

One of my favorite guilty pleasures are Little Debbie Zebra cakes. They're $2 a box. Giant bags of potato chips are often on sale for $3. Pasta or rice a roni or mac and cheese? $1 a box.

Then there are the fast food places. McDonald's has its $1, $2, and $3 menus. Burger King does similar. Jack in the Box is weirdly cheap. Taco Bell won't set you back.

Go to an average grocery store and spend, say, $10 on produce. What you get is not nearly as fulfilling on a hunger level.

I've been to a lot of stores in poorer neighborhoods. The quality of the produce is just laughably bad. But the aisles are chock full of shitty, high sugar, high carb, low nutrition foods. If you're working poor, exhausted, and don't have time to cook, just throw that sack of discount fruit loops at the kids and be done with it.

It's how our food system and poverty intertwine. It is incredibly cheap to have a very poor diet in America.

(I've been to Europe quite a bit, and I agree about the prices. Just ouch. But then everything in Europe seems more expensive than the States).

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
63. Excellent point about high carb diets
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:36 PM
Jun 2018

And on another point, I do NOT see many people over age 50 exercising. I see people in gyms and jogging outside, but they are usually under age 40.

I have burned 78 candles, and do not need any medications, have no pain anywhere, no diabetes, never had a heart attack. I push myself to walk 30 minutes at a nice pace 5 times a week. And try to stay under 160 lbs on my 5'-8" frame.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
87. I blame suburbanization
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:52 PM
Jun 2018

Once you need a car to do anything, the impetus to move becomes lesser. People simply get used to being home and going anywhere means a car ride.

While not a perfect correlation, I'd bet the slimmer residents in various cities are ones where public transportation is plentiful.

One thing that really helps me is an apple watch that monitors everything. You can set your movement/distance goal, and it nudges you to stand, go be active, etc. I set my distance/calorie goals and make sure to meet them everyday.

I'm almost semi-joking when I say we should be giving out Fit Bits to school children.

But at least Pokemon Go became a thing. It does get the kids out there.

Ohiogal

(32,012 posts)
68. You are so correct Wonkwest
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:42 PM
Jun 2018

and you put it into words so well.

Some poorer neighborhoods, from what I have observed, have only a Dollar Store for buying groceries.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
69. Because health food stores go broke in poor neighborhoods
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:45 PM
Jun 2018

Only stores which thrive in poor neighborhoods are those selling junk foods. No one wants a store which loses money.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
88. I'll kind of say this
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:53 PM
Jun 2018

At least dollar stores have canned vegetables. It's better than nothing.

But yeah. There's a massive Dollar Tree I'll visit once in awhile for various bits and bats, but I don't think I've ever walked out of there with food.

Outside of Halloween candy. Dollar stores can be amazing for Halloween candy.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
101. The only semi-vegetable thing I eat out of cans are beans ... canned veggies are AWFUL ...
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:08 AM
Jun 2018

Well, okay, also some tomato-based things like El Pato sauce ... wish it didn't only come in a can, cause El Pato is a staple food-like thing in my esteem ... if you THINK you're out of salsa/taco sauce, guess what ... you're NOT ... cause you have El Pato in the pantry.

Now that ya mention it, though ... it used to be $.69/can for YEARS, and now it's $.99/can. That's quite some inflation.

I'm actually kinda amazed walking around a grocery store, given HOW MUCH STUFF there is, and how much I KNOW must go to waste ... that things are as cheap as they are, quite frankly. This is not to speak to people's budgets as I know groceries are expensive to some, relatively-speaking, but I can't help but feel when I'm at the store that we're living in an age of just incredible bounty. I find myself going, like ... ALL THIS STUFF ... is just brought to a spot like .5 miles from my house, from all over the world, and it only costs ... THAT? Really?

I can't help but think that grocery stores are hugely reliant on a small % of things in their inventory that are massively profitable to maintain their existence, much like restaurants depend on drinks and desserts and upselling the hell out of you ... "would like feta on that? It's only $2.99 extra?!?".

I think, overall, grocery stores make little on the food, and most of their dough on stuff like TP/Paper Towels/Care Products like Cosmetics and Tampax and Toothpaste and Pampers And Shampoo And ... /Briquettes/Kitty Litter/Greeting Cards/PHARMACIES, etc. Everything BUT the food, basically.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
105. Loss leaders
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jun 2018

End caps exist for a reason.

Yeah, I'm always baffled. My store runs are so limited. I'll look at entire aisles and think, "Does anyone buy this stuff?" Someone must, right? I don't know who these people are, and they certainly don't exist in my immediate family, but someone must, right?

I go to a local supermarket and get roughly the same six items every time. I'm not entirely sure who the aisles are for.

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
75. The healthiest and most nutritious food is the most expensive.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:04 PM
Jun 2018

As a side note, I look forward to the day that fat bigotry gets treated like other forms of bigotry.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
86. shitty high sugar and high fat "food" is subsidized and cheaper than healthy food
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:35 PM
Jun 2018

and that is if you even have good access to grocery stores. low income people are often heavy because they work all the time and don't have time/energy to cook. blaming poor people for being fat is ignorant. sure they may be "wealthier" than someone in a third world famine crises, but it isn't like life is easy when you are poor.

DFW

(54,412 posts)
96. Exactly!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:38 AM
Jun 2018

It's not how much you eat, it's WHAT you eat. It's cheaper and faster to heat up a pizza and have a donut and some sugary carbonated soda than it is to buy a decent cut of fish and some fresh vegetables for a healthy salad. It's an expense and outlay of time that many lower income people can't afford. Even here in Germany we are starting to see more and more of this.

Here, we have Turkish fast food places everywhere with one of the best, healthiest bargains in Europe. A döner kebap is a quarter of a huge round hollow bread, about the size of a quarter of a medium pizza. They have meat (choice of veal or chicken, usually) turning on a spit in front of a grill. You choose your meat, which they carve off in slices as it is cooked, and then your supplements, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber bits, sliced cabbage, onions, bits of feta, etc. Then yoghurt or tzatziki and chili powder if you want it. It costs less than $5 (less if you skip the meat) and can feed two people or one very hungry one. More and more, the older people order this while the teens and twenty-somethings come in and order double portions of fries with mayonnaise, washed down with a soft drink. They get their calories so they aren't hungry any more, but only the manufacturers of super-size clothing and future cardiologists and oncologists are really getting the better end of this bargain.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
55. I have been noticing the slow creep up in prices for a while now
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:25 PM
Jun 2018

What really burns my butt is my latest heating oil delivery. Fucking $3.79/gallon. That’s higher than premium gas for my car in my area.
This is the highest it’s been in years! I remember crazy prices when oil was over $100/bbl. it’s nowhere near that now.

randr

(12,412 posts)
76. Gas, food, commodities, all are going up in price
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:13 PM
Jun 2018

We are witnessing inflation and no one is sounding the bells.
What I used to buy for $50 at the grocery store is costing me $80.The rise has taken at least 9 mos.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
84. not that much recently but it has gone up over time
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:29 PM
Jun 2018

I raise beef and know those prices have been going back down (they were pretty outrageous the last few years - good for my income, not so much for eating steak LOL)

I mostly buy meat (on sale) and produce, very little processed crap so that may be why I haven't noticed as much.

MissB

(15,810 posts)
91. I haven't noticed much
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jun 2018

Mostly because both of my sons opted to stay and work in their college towns this summer. Not having a 20 year old and a 19 year old eat every.single.thing in the house means I’m spending way less in groceries.

I tend to buy in bulk anyway. I probably have 3-5 years worth of rice, lentils, beans, oatmeal and pasta in the house. I keep a large pantry and root cellar.

I also have a good sized garden and backyard chickens. My food costs tend to go down a lot in the summer. I start my veggies from seed and am trying to grow only open pollinated plants so I can save the seed.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
98. it's been going on for decades! some people will make every excuse in the book to explain it,
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 03:10 AM
Jun 2018

but it is just the usual soulless corporate profiteering. the cost of food and other basic necessities has been going up faster than wages for decades.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
102. Things I wish for in my community
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:24 AM
Jun 2018

We seem to have plenty of land for building ghastly megachurches with parking lots that I’m sure are big enough to see from outer space. I just saw a new one going up down the street from me - it is hideous-looking, gargantuan in size, and... empty. Apparently whatever “church” owns it, ran out of money.

But we have no parks or playgrounds or places to walk your dog. I dream of waking up one morning and finding all of the megachurches gone, and replaced by community vegetable plots and parks. We really do need places to grow our own food given the rising price of basic goods.

Also in my dream, Corey Stewart is not our County Supervisor. Yeah, that Corey Stewart. UGH!

icymist

(15,888 posts)
108. And they are slicing meat ever thinner as well...
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 07:50 PM
Jun 2018

Just last week I found quarter inch 'steaks' that would better pass for leather!

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