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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:40 PM Jun 2018

How can it be that shelter workers are barred from TOUCHING the children,

even the toddlers?

A doctor wrote about this in the WA Post today, but didn't explain why this rule exists. Neither did another shelter worker who left his job because he felt it was impossible to do.

No hugging, no holding, but they can hand an 18 month old books and toys.

And they wonder why they're still screaming?

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How can it be that shelter workers are barred from TOUCHING the children, (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2018 OP
😢😡🤬 NurseJackie Jun 2018 #1
What do we know about the staff members? leftstreet Jun 2018 #2
Yes, they are professionals hired through an existing agency. pnwmom Jun 2018 #4
The facility has been cited 13 times for violations leftstreet Jun 2018 #6
A ridiculous blanket rule to prevent accusations Flaleftist Jun 2018 #3
Probably sarah FAILIN Jun 2018 #5
I worked at a State School thbobby Jun 2018 #7
I thought the 'heavenly hands' Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #8
I posted this on another thread last night FuzzyRabbit Jun 2018 #9
Yes! Children REQUIRE touching in order to develop. This is cruel and inhumane. n/t pnwmom Jun 2018 #10
Human touch is crucial to their well being world wide wally Jun 2018 #11
Here's another angle HeiressofBickworth Jun 2018 #12
i think we have a winner here. mopinko Jun 2018 #13

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
2. What do we know about the staff members?
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:48 PM
Jun 2018

Are they professional child caregivers?

Do they run background checks?

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
4. Yes, they are professionals hired through an existing agency.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:53 PM
Jun 2018

But these no-touching rules apply to everyone. It isn't because the caregivers are unqualified.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
6. The facility has been cited 13 times for violations
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:01 AM
Jun 2018
The shelter at the former Walmart has been cited 13 times for deficiencies by state regulators since it was established in March 2017. In August 2017, an employee at Casa Padre made a belittling remark to a child in the presence of other children. One month later, a minor tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease. The medical coordinator failed to follow up, and the minor did not receive medical treatment until four weeks later.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/us/family-separation-migrant-children-detention.html


Doesn't sound too professional

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
5. Probably
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:57 PM
Jun 2018

I understand an attempt to put distance between caregivers and children in a daycare type situation to protect kids in case a pedophile fell through the cracks, but that is not what this is. These kids need nurturing caregivers.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
7. I worked at a State School
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:03 AM
Jun 2018

while going to college. Moderately retarded men's ward. They loved playful and affectionate touching. One that I liked a great deal loved pretending to march. I would sing patriotic songs put my arm around his shoulder and he would giggle while we marched. His nickname was Candy Man because we would buy him candy bars which he loved. In the last year I worked there, rules were changed to forbid any physical contact or giving them food or beverage. The rationale was to prevent abuse. I worked there 3 years and never saw any abuse. There were many staff workers and professionals around all the time. The rule was bureaucracy trying to look good. It was absurd and took much away from the patients.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
8. I thought the 'heavenly hands'
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:08 AM
Jun 2018

of Bethany Assembly of God was supposed to handle this nationwide. A very strange church imho.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
9. I posted this on another thread last night
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:20 AM
Jun 2018

but I think it needs to be repeated to emphasize how cruel this policy is.

History Lesson: More than 100 years ago orphanages thought that by not allowing human touch, the orphans would grow stronger. Instead, nearly all of them died. The orphanages quickly learned that children who were hugged and had regular human touch lived and were healthy.

By depriving these kids of normal, healthy human touch the jailers might be murdering them.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
12. Here's another angle
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:34 AM
Jun 2018

By forbidding touch they also stop employees from bonding with the children. Wouldn't want the employees to become sympathetic and take opposition to the plan.

What they are doing is diabotical!!

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