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"This is not my America. This is not our America."--Avenatti (Original Post) Skidmore Jun 2018 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jun 2018 #1
I know it is wrong to look to anyone person, but damn this gave me a big shot of hope today hlthe2b Jun 2018 #2
This man... FarPoint Jun 2018 #3
Hah! GMTA--I just called him a warrior before reading your post. nt tblue37 Jun 2018 #8
His passion.. FarPoint Jun 2018 #11
Which is why my tag line on my profile reads...... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2018 #18
Beautiful! FarPoint Jun 2018 #21
The founders had a vision for what we could be... Volaris Jun 2018 #24
So true.... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2018 #27
Interesting. Will be following this closely. Is it possible that his voice is the first one Ninga Jun 2018 #4
He always Delivers! FarPoint Jun 2018 #7
Not even close. kag Jun 2018 #19
One thing Avenatti can do is publicize this evil practice even more csziggy Jun 2018 #41
Absolutely. Alan Dershowitz and his ilk sure the hell won't. Midnight Writer Jun 2018 #47
+1 populistdriven Jun 2018 #51
Great point. kag Jun 2018 #53
ACLU has all kinds of things going with this- I am on their email list and they need money ; Amaryllis Jun 2018 #54
K&R... spanone Jun 2018 #5
K&R for visibility. Good! The man is a warrior. nt tblue37 Jun 2018 #6
I love this guy! leftofcool Jun 2018 #9
Take a number! calimary Jun 2018 #39
God bless you sir! workinclasszero Jun 2018 #10
republicans pissing on children and families Achilleaze Jun 2018 #12
Let's not forget the organizations working on this that could use our help: mucifer Jun 2018 #13
Can anybody explain why these migrants seeking asylum calimary Jun 2018 #40
Dolt45's administration - Jeff Sessions - is defning them all as illegal immigrants csziggy Jun 2018 #42
Asylum-seekers do not "illegally cross the border." They present themselves at the border... Hekate Jun 2018 #60
Thank you! klook Jun 2018 #56
Keep posting this list, mucifer -- and thanks! Hekate Jun 2018 #59
He's not providing any exposure for the groups working on this jberryhill Jun 2018 #61
Yeah, he is a bit of a media whore. But, if it helps that's fine. I wish he would mucifer Jun 2018 #62
It's remarkable jberryhill Jun 2018 #63
I agree. So many threads were posted about it yesterday. Like no one else was doing anything. mucifer Jun 2018 #64
Imagine how much it bothers attorneys actually doing this work jberryhill Jun 2018 #65
Go fund me? SallyHemmings Jun 2018 #14
Father's Day thbobby Jun 2018 #15
Since America has lost sight of what freedom means, SCVDem Jun 2018 #16
I hope this spurs action from others with skills, too. pandr32 Jun 2018 #17
If this doesn't motivate the uncommitted to get NoMoreRepugs Jun 2018 #20
Fight this heinous policy, Michael Avenatti democrank Jun 2018 #22
I love this - it made my day womanofthehills Jun 2018 #23
This is not America Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #25
I knew he would join the fight SummerSnow Jun 2018 #26
Tell me Avenatti isn't running for political office! procon Jun 2018 #28
Concentration camps! Generic Brad Jun 2018 #29
Yes! forkol Jun 2018 #38
I am a Sicilian-American, and I can say that like many groups from traditional cultures, tblue37 Jun 2018 #30
He'd make a stupendous AG.... zentrum Jun 2018 #31
Wow. Michael Avenatti has really jumped in with both feet! BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #32
professional race car drivers go in deeper!! gibraltar72 Jun 2018 #33
These asylum seekers need every lawyer they can get DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #34
Avenatti...A true American hero and patriot blue-wave Jun 2018 #35
Thank You Mr Avenatti, duforsure Jun 2018 #36
This is wonderful news! NastyRiffraff Jun 2018 #37
K&R!!! Puzzler Jun 2018 #43
thank you M. Avenatti onetexan Jun 2018 #44
k and r...more exposure..nt. Stuart G Jun 2018 #45
Someone has to save our country. Everyone I thought may do something blueinredohio Jun 2018 #46
yes it is, always has been heaven05 Jun 2018 #48
Slaves had their babies ripped from their arms Solly Mack Jun 2018 #49
Aww.. I am so Happy to see this, Skidmore! Cha Jun 2018 #50
K & R! Yay! Michael Avenatti! Lifelong Protester Jun 2018 #52
Good on Avenatt! Feeble journalist Chuck Todd tonight couldn't combat one of Trump's propaganda Prof.Higgins Jun 2018 #55
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2018 #57
Avenatti also used the word "Fascist" Puzzler Jun 2018 #58
Yes, it is. LWolf Jun 2018 #66

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
11. His passion..
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jun 2018

His focus..it does resemble that of Maximus...from the all time favorite movie, Gladiator.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
4. Interesting. Will be following this closely. Is it possible that his voice is the first one
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:31 AM
Jun 2018

to take actual action?

kag

(4,079 posts)
19. Not even close.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:59 AM
Jun 2018

I mean, good for him, but there are all kinds of attorneys working on this. At least one Civil Rights group in Texas was interviewed on MSNBC about their involvement, and I'm pretty sure the ACLU has a group on this.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
41. One thing Avenatti can do is publicize this evil practice even more
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:42 PM
Jun 2018

Most of the attorneys and groups working on this have spent all their time and money working for the benefit of their clients - as they should. Avenatti already has a public forum and is very good at using the media for his purposes so he can attack on a new front.

Jacob Soboroff is doing a great job reporting the facts, but Avenatti has an on camera presence that can help even more.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
54. ACLU has all kinds of things going with this- I am on their email list and they need money ;
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 08:25 PM
Jun 2018

for extra legal help. The good thing about Avenatti is he has a huge platform and high visibility.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
39. Take a number!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jun 2018

He’s doing the work of the saints. Fighting the yellow-haired liar who has that special place in Hell waiting for him.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
12. republicans pissing on children and families
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:37 AM
Jun 2018

reveals how low and degenerate their "family values" really are

mucifer

(23,547 posts)
13. Let's not forget the organizations working on this that could use our help:
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:38 AM
Jun 2018
• The ACLU is litigating this policy in California.

• If you’re an immigration lawyer, the American Immigration Lawyers Association will be sending around a volunteer list for you to help represent the women and men with their asylum screening, bond hearings, ongoing asylum representation, etc. Please sign up.

• Al Otro Lado is a binational organization that works to offer legal services to deportees and migrants in Tijuana, Mexico, including deportee parents whose children remain in the U.S.

• CARA—a consortium of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, the American Immigration Council, the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services, and the American Immigration Lawyers Association—provides legal services at family detention centers.

• The Florence Project is an Arizona project offering free legal services to men, women, and unaccompanied children in immigration custody.

• Human Rights First is a national organization with roots in Houston that needs help from lawyers too.

• Kids in Need of Defense works to ensure that kids do not appear in immigration court without representation, and to lobby for policies that advocate for children’s legal interests. Donate here.

• The Legal Aid Justice Center is a Virginia-based center providing unaccompanied minors legal services and representation.

• Pueblo Sin Fronteras is an organization that provides humanitarian aid and shelter to migrants on their way to the U.S.

• RAICES is the largest immigration nonprofit in Texas offering free and low-cost legal services to immigrant children and families. Donate here and sign up as a volunteer here.

• The Texas Civil Rights Project is seeking “volunteers who speak Spanish, Mam, Q’eqchi’ or K’iche’ and have paralegal or legal assistant experience.”

• Together Rising is another Virginia-based organization that’s helping provide legal assistance for 60 migrant children who were separated from their parents and are currently detained in Arizona.

• The Urban Justice Center’s Asylum Seeker Advocacy Project is working to keep families together.

• Women’s Refugee Commission advocates for the rights and protection of women, children, and youth fleeing violence and persecution.

• Finally, ActBlue has aggregated many of these groups under a single button.

This list isn’t comprehensive, so let us know what else is happening. And please call your elected officials, stay tuned for demonstrations, hug your children, and be grateful if you are not currently dependent on the basic humanity of U.S. policy.

Update, June 17, 2018: Thanks to readers who updated us with more organizations fighting this policy. Other good work is being done by the following:

• CLINIC’s Defending Vulnerable Populations project offers case assistance to hundreds of smaller organizations all over the country that do direct services for migrant families and children.

• American Immigrant Representation Project (AIRP), which works to secure legal representation for immigrants.

• CASA in Maryland, D.C., Virginia, and Pennsylvania. They litigate, advocate, and help with representation of minors needing legal services.

• Freedom for Immigrants (Formerly CIVIC), which has been a leading voice opposing immigrant detention.

• The Michigan Immigrant Rights Center represents all of the immigrant kids placed by the government in foster care in Michigan (one of the biggest foster care placement states). About two-thirds are their current clients are separation cases, and they work to find parents and figure out next steps.

• The Northwest Immigrant Rights Project is doing work defending and advancing the rights of immigrants through direct legal services, systemic advocacy, and community education.

• Young Center for Immigrant Children’s Rights works for the rights of children in immigration proceedings.

• The Women’s Refugee Commission has aggregated five actions everyone can take that go beyond donating funds.

• And finally, the International Refugee Assistance Project (IRAP)—which organizes law students and lawyers to develop and enforce a set of legal and human rights for refugees and displaced persons—just filed suit challenging the cancellation of the Central American Minors program.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/how-you-can-fight-family-separation-at-the-border.html


I am glad Michael Avenatti is making noise. He has a platform. I want some exposure for the groups working on this.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
40. Can anybody explain why these migrants seeking asylum
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jun 2018

are being brought before a judge in criminal court? I’m no lawyer but I’ve now heard multiple experts saying that seeking asylum is NOT a crime.

Please tell me what I’m getting wrong here.

Mighty glad to see how many entities are fighting this, AND Michael Avenatti, too, now! That’s the best news I’ve heard in along time!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
42. Dolt45's administration - Jeff Sessions - is defning them all as illegal immigrants
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jun 2018

It seems as though even the refugees who present themselves at the border stations and apply for refugee status are being treated as illegals

I don't have links, this is what I have gathered from TV sources.

Hekate

(90,705 posts)
60. Asylum-seekers do not "illegally cross the border." They present themselves at the border...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 04:27 AM
Jun 2018

...and make their plea for asylum. This is what I have always understood the case to be.

Jeff Sessions with his twinkly eyes and happy little smile has created a complete perversion of the process -- damn sadist looks like he's getting a kick out of it. Trump, Sessions, and Dead-eyed Miller are all lying in their teeth.


NOT IN MY NAME, YOU EVIL BASTARDS!


 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
61. He's not providing any exposure for the groups working on this
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:18 AM
Jun 2018

Since he's asking on Twitter if anyone knows of people in this situation, he's apparently unaware of the lawyers who are working on this.

But, unlike the legal groups who are engaged on this issue, Avenatti will bring a refreshing unfamiliarity with immigration law to the table for certain.

mucifer

(23,547 posts)
62. Yeah, he is a bit of a media whore. But, if it helps that's fine. I wish he would
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:21 AM
Jun 2018

pass along the information for the groups that really need money right now. I am glad Slate did.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
63. It's remarkable
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:27 AM
Jun 2018

For a single tweet expressing his personal ignorance of the groups putting in unrewarded hours working to provide legal aid to immigrants, he is hailed as a hero.

mucifer

(23,547 posts)
64. I agree. So many threads were posted about it yesterday. Like no one else was doing anything.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:29 AM
Jun 2018

It really bothered me.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
65. Imagine how much it bothers attorneys actually doing this work
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:16 AM
Jun 2018

Some rich guy from Newport Beach with zero background, knowledge or experience in immigration law gets national acclaim for essentially saying "I don't know what's going on".

SallyHemmings

(1,822 posts)
14. Go fund me?
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:42 AM
Jun 2018

I donated some money to the ACLU. I will be happy to donate to a GoFundme help those kids.

He just may get something done. His voice will draw attention for those who are not paying attention.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
15. Father's Day
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:44 AM
Jun 2018

And Americans are horrified by NeoNazi GOP terror tactics. This will not stand. Avenatti is awesome and great to have on the side of American Decency, but America will not stand for this. Every American must fight to stop this evil pre-genocide spectacle. This is a call to war for all decent Americans. We went to war against Nazis to stop this kind of thing.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
16. Since America has lost sight of what freedom means,
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jun 2018

I am cancelling any Independence Day parties.

We are a division of Russia Inc. That is not independent or free.

I will hold a quiet wake for what we have lost.

Go get 'em Michael!

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
17. I hope this spurs action from others with skills, too.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jun 2018

Please keep up the fight until our country ends this nightmare.

If we are going to re-purpose empty mega-stores, it sure as hell shouldn't be as for-profit detention centers for children or for anyone.

America is dying and needs saving...fast.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,431 posts)
20. If this doesn't motivate the uncommitted to get
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:59 AM
Jun 2018

off their butts and vote against tRump and his minions then all is truly lost.

procon

(15,805 posts)
28. Tell me Avenatti isn't running for political office!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:50 AM
Jun 2018

This man is brilliant at using the media, he's a skilled orator, a champion for the oppressed, he's handsome, he's the most interesting -- race car driver! -- man in the world. He's classy, he has, at the very least, built a public perception of high moral values and personal integrity, and he's also a wily legal opponent, and he takes no prisoners in the most elegant way possible.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
29. Concentration camps!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:53 AM
Jun 2018

They are going full Nazi. This abhorrent action must stop immediately and those responsible need to be punished for this inhuman behavior!

Anyone who justifies it is are as bad as the ones openly committing this heinous act because they are enabling it.

forkol

(113 posts)
38. Yes!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:23 PM
Jun 2018

I had decided yesterday to start referring to the 'detention centers' as concentration camps. Today I am going to send a letter to each of my GOPer senators how is it that they can justify sending these children to concentration camps.

tblue37

(65,391 posts)
30. I am a Sicilian-American, and I can say that like many groups from traditional cultures,
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:55 AM
Jun 2018

Italians take very seriously the importance of family ties and the preciousness of children.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
31. He'd make a stupendous AG....
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:59 AM
Jun 2018

…when we get a Dem into office in 2020.

Or Supreme Court Judge.

Would make a great Senator from NY too but I guess the establishment Dems have those office now.
Maybe he'll be AG of New York for a while at some point.

Love this guy's feminism, values, energy and media savvy.

Thank you Stormy for finding him!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
32. Wow. Michael Avenatti has really jumped in with both feet!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jun 2018

I'd never heard of him before the Stormy Daniels case, but he's gone from 0 to 100 in very short order.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
34. These asylum seekers need every lawyer they can get
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:06 PM
Jun 2018

Avenatti is a master at the media. He calls a spade, a spade, no mincing words or playing around with nicities. Right now Avenatti is the alpha-est male in the room. I'm glad he's in the fight now.

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
35. Avenatti...A true American hero and patriot
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jun 2018

I don't know who I am more outraged at, Trump, his enablers in congress or the conservative "Christians" who put him/them in office. These so called "Christians" are doing more to destroy America, destroy decency, morality and empathy than any other group I can think of. And oh, they are also destroying their own religion in the process. FYI, I was raised in one of their sects, but I was NEVER taught to treat people this way.

Godspeed Mr. Avenatti!!!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
36. Thank You Mr Avenatti,
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jun 2018

And don't forget this is a clear pattern from trump and the gop hurting children with their policies. Cutting food programs for them , cutting their health care available to them, cutting EPA pollution standards polluting our air and water for them, and all being done intentionally, and hurting children. They should be shamed the rest of their lives for this now.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
37. This is wonderful news!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jun 2018

Avenatti fights like an enraged tiger. I know there are more individuals & groups fighting this obscenity, but more help is always needed and welcome.

#Basta

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
48. yes it is, always has been
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jun 2018

An AA was POTUS for 8 years and look at the IMMEDIATE WHITE backlash. The trump voter cheering MAGA and their potus are nothing but pure evil.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
49. Slaves had their babies ripped from their arms
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jun 2018

Slaves themselves were ripped from their homeland.

Native peoples had their children forcibly removed and then sent to be raised by white people or in orphanages run by white people.

Japanese Americans were put into detention camps and lost everything.

Jim Crow

Bush tortured people.

Yeah. This is America.

Too often any progress toward the good feels like the exception and not the rule





Prof.Higgins

(194 posts)
55. Good on Avenatt! Feeble journalist Chuck Todd tonight couldn't combat one of Trump's propaganda
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jun 2018

slingers. Even silly Kellyanne Conway was able to rope-a-dope "celebrity" Chuck.

Every piece of fallacious argument and every flat out lie from diabolical Republican interviewees should not only be exposed by non-Murdoch interviewers, but also these steaming propaganda defecators should be truncated instead of the way gutless interviewers keep attempting to normalize such egregious bull dust.

That's the very least our feckless news media "celebrities" can do to fight against separating children into harmful incarceration. And why aren't they fighting for our school children whose gun regulation campaigns these same news celebrities have so quickly abandoned?

Thank goodness for Avenatti and hosts like Melber, Maddow and O'Donnell who provide Avenatti with opportunities for him to speak truth to power.

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
58. Avenatti also used the word "Fascist"
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 01:06 AM
Jun 2018

Thank you Mr. Avenatti for going there!!!

It is fascism.

And you have the guts to call it what it really is! Plus you have the media spotlight.




-Puzzler



LWolf

(46,179 posts)
66. Yes, it is.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jun 2018

The United States of America is "uniquely American." It's capitalistic structure, authoritarianism, racism, classism, and nationalism is not new. The modern U.S. grew out of all of those seeds.

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