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riversedge

(70,232 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:05 PM Jun 2018

The #ZeroTolerance policy is NEW!! 4/06/18: "This zero-tolerance policy shall supersede any exis

signed by JS! This is a good tweet to pass around.

The #ZeroTolerance policy is NEW!! 4/06/18: "This zero-tolerance policy shall supersede any existing policies" This comment cements it as Sessions-Trumps-Miller's!! --meaning whatever policy existed prior to this directive is null and void.


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The #ZeroTolerance policy is NEW!! 4/06/18: "This zero-tolerance policy shall supersede any exis (Original Post) riversedge Jun 2018 OP
I don't normally use twitter but I retweeted this. kimbutgar Jun 2018 #1
Thanks so much. Have a good day. riversedge Jun 2018 #2
Not really relevant, imo, elleng Jun 2018 #3
Do you have access to this part of the code? 1325(a)? Silver Gaia Jun 2018 #8
Here it is, the whole shebang. elleng Jun 2018 #13
Thank you! Silver Gaia Jun 2018 #14
For anyone interested, here is the part of the code referenced in the memo: Silver Gaia Jun 2018 #15
Thanks. I suspect MOST of the entering 'aliens' elleng Jun 2018 #16
I agree. Silver Gaia Jun 2018 #18
Right, no questions asked. elleng Jun 2018 #19
Yep. Silver Gaia Jun 2018 #21
I realize that, but the refugees are being treated under the new 'zero tolerance' policy cooked up riversedge Jun 2018 #12
This should be the lead story everywhere malaise Jun 2018 #4
kicking... dhill926 Jun 2018 #5
Silent Republicons / not working to stop it are complicit & evil. Their family value harm children Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #6
They are not aliens. They are refugees. They do not have criminal intent. They are seeking japple Jun 2018 #7
Totally discriminatory!! Louis1895 Jun 2018 #9
Punishing people for any reason or no reason seems to be an American affliction cagefreesoylentgreen Jun 2018 #10
It's a trump & his Doormats Obsession.. don't broad brush with "America". Cha Jun 2018 #22
I went to Twitter to read the discussion there about this, and Silver Gaia Jun 2018 #11
Umm....Collins is childless - she is not a Mom jpak Jun 2018 #17
MF trump is a Lying chicken Shit Coward. Cha Jun 2018 #20
For us old farts with bum eyes: Brother Buzz Jun 2018 #23
KICK!!!! Cha Jun 2018 #24

elleng

(130,914 posts)
3. Not really relevant, imo,
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jun 2018

as most of these families are trying to cross to seek asylum, I thought, and should NOT be subjected to 'Criminal Immigration Enforcement' per 8 U.S.C. 1325(a).

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
8. Do you have access to this part of the code? 1325(a)?
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:53 PM
Jun 2018

If so, could you post it? Or post a link to it? Or otherwise direct me to it? I want to read it. Thanks!

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
15. For anyone interested, here is the part of the code referenced in the memo:
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jun 2018

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

(b) Improper time or place; civil penaltiesAny alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both.

(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.

elleng

(130,914 posts)
16. Thanks. I suspect MOST of the entering 'aliens'
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jun 2018

have not/are not doing so under these terms, but that's just me.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
18. I agree.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jun 2018

I think his "zero tolerance" policy means this applies to anyone trying to enter the country at the southern border under any circumstances (particularly if their skin is brown). Period.

riversedge

(70,232 posts)
12. I realize that, but the refugees are being treated under the new 'zero tolerance' policy cooked up
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jun 2018

by Stephen Miller and implemented by Jeff Sessions.

japple

(9,825 posts)
7. They are not aliens. They are refugees. They do not have criminal intent. They are seeking
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jun 2018

assylum. They are not seeking an "illegal goal." They are desperate people who are seeking a better life. Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, your smart changes and updated approach were used by slave holders in the US, were used by the federal govt. in their attemps assimilate Indian children. It is a crime against humanity.

Louis1895

(768 posts)
9. Totally discriminatory!!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:53 PM
Jun 2018

The memorandum only affects those along the southwest border. If you cross over from Canada or into Florida, the order does not apply.

10. Punishing people for any reason or no reason seems to be an American affliction
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:55 PM
Jun 2018

America seems obsessed with punishing people, everyone except the rich.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
11. I went to Twitter to read the discussion there about this, and
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jun 2018

downthread someone asks a question I mentioned to my husband yesterday.

Where are the girls?

All I have seen or heard discussed are "detention centers" where boys and babies are being kept.

Where are the girls? Why have we not heard of any of these centers where girls are being kept?

I sincerely hope it's just because the ones we have "found" so far are not facilities for girls, but even so, why isn't someone asking about and demanding to see the places for girls, too?

I am just concerned.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
17. Umm....Collins is childless - she is not a Mom
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jun 2018

She has no maternal instinct to cloud her judgment on this issue.

Nope

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