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kimbutgar

(21,153 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:26 PM Jun 2018

I wonder how many church leaders are talking about these internment camps in church today?

I hope the backlash this week is swift and powerful against this and mires Twitler and the rethugs to back peddle. Every Democratic politician should be going after the administration and the rethug party. Throw so much mud at them they won’t know what hit them. And we should be on the streets or making calls to congress to stop this madman’s policies and release these children back to their parents.

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I wonder how many church leaders are talking about these internment camps in church today? (Original Post) kimbutgar Jun 2018 OP
Probably less than one dalton99a Jun 2018 #1
I'll go out on a limb and say: Probably not enough... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #2
I suspect it is slowly rolling to a boil. gibraltar72 Jun 2018 #3
My Lutheran pastor made an emphatic and detailed statement before today's service The Blue Flower Jun 2018 #4
I was raised Catholic but my hubby was raised Lutheran kimbutgar Jun 2018 #5
My Lutheran pastor said pretty much the very same thing today. boguspotus Jun 2018 #13
Given the number of faith groups speaking against this heinous policy -- a lot Hekate Jun 2018 #6
United Church of Christ (congregational) statement from June 1 salin Jun 2018 #8
Add the United Methodist Church Council of Bishops as well, on June 7. Staph Jun 2018 #15
My Methodist minister changed his sermon on the spot AwakeAtLast Jun 2018 #17
All of the good ones grantcart Jun 2018 #7
There will be more. The American people did not elect these monsters. Hekate Jun 2018 #10
...and how many church leaders are supporting the policy? After all, it's Biblical... brooklynite Jun 2018 #9
Against : Southern Baptist Convention. Against: Franklin Graham Hekate Jun 2018 #16
If Franklin Graham is against you, you got nuthin' kwassa Jun 2018 #11
Catholic bishops call Trump's asylum rules 'immoral,' Fla Dem Jun 2018 #12
Rump will be wanting these monkeys (children) off of his back pretty soon tavernier Jun 2018 #14

gibraltar72

(7,504 posts)
3. I suspect it is slowly rolling to a boil.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 03:11 PM
Jun 2018

I asked myself the same question. I know there are some good christians are they so few that they are scared to speak up? I do a monthly LTE I am going to pose that question. To the Christstains I know to exist in my corrupt area Hard by Hillsdale College.

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
4. My Lutheran pastor made an emphatic and detailed statement before today's service
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 03:58 PM
Jun 2018

She made it clear that we are watching an evil unfold and that those who quoted scripture to defend the policy were distorting it hatefully.

kimbutgar

(21,153 posts)
5. I was raised Catholic but my hubby was raised Lutheran
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:10 PM
Jun 2018

Whenever we visit his Mother we go to her Lutheran Church. I love the philosophy of the Lutheran Church and am heartened to hear your pastor spoke out against this Horrendous policy. There is nothing Christian or good what Twitler is doing.

boguspotus

(286 posts)
13. My Lutheran pastor said pretty much the very same thing today.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:21 PM
Jun 2018

She is pretty upset with Trump and his minions too. But she had a great positive message today. You don't happen to go to church in South Minneapolis, do you?

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
6. Given the number of faith groups speaking against this heinous policy -- a lot
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jun 2018

Los Angeles Times, Saturday, June 16, 2018, page A2
Decrying 'zero tolerance'
Faith leaders call Trump policy of splitting migrant families sad, sinful

US Conference of Catholic Bishops
African Methodist Episcopal Church
Southern Baptist Convention
Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism
Franklin Graham
Poor People's Campaign



Staph

(6,251 posts)
15. Add the United Methodist Church Council of Bishops as well, on June 7.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 07:04 PM
Jun 2018
FAITH LEADERS’ STATEMENT ON FAMILY SEPARATION

Recently, the U.S. Administration announced that it will begin separating families and criminally prosecuting all people who enter the U.S. without previous authorization. As religious leaders representing diverse faith perspectives, united in our concern for the well-being of vulnerable migrants who cross our borders fleeing from danger and threats to their lives, we are deeply disappointed and pained to hear this news.

We affirm the family as a foundational societal structure to support human community and understand the household as an estate blessed by God. The security of the family provides critical mental, physical and emotional support to the development and wellbeing of children. Our congregations and agencies serve many migrant families that have recently arrived in the United States. Leaving their communities is often the only option they have to provide safety for their children and protect them from harm. Tearing children away from parents who have made a dangerous journey to provide a safe and sufficient life for them is unnecessarily cruel and detrimental to the well-being of parents and children.

As we continue to serve and love our neighbor, we pray for the children and families that will suffer due to this policy and urge the Administration to stop their policy of separating families.



http://www.umc.org/who-we-are/faith-leaders-statement-on-family-separation


AwakeAtLast

(14,125 posts)
17. My Methodist minister changed his sermon on the spot
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jun 2018

Two Sundays ago. He said he was led by his heart to change his message in response to this nightmare. It was a great one, so spot on!

And I happen to live in one of the reddest counties in So. IL, but guess what? Attendance has gone UP!

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
10. There will be more. The American people did not elect these monsters.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:35 PM
Jun 2018

WHERE ARE MY CHILDREN?
NOT IN MY NAME, YOU EVIL BASTARDS

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
16. Against : Southern Baptist Convention. Against: Franklin Graham
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jun 2018

The fascist monsters are going to stand alone.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
11. If Franklin Graham is against you, you got nuthin'
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:46 PM
Jun 2018

He is so freakishly right-wing denialist.

Sessions seriously fucked up, and Trump is already backing off.

Fla Dem

(23,673 posts)
12. Catholic bishops call Trump's asylum rules 'immoral,'
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:48 PM
Jun 2018
with one suggesting ‘canonical penalties’ for for those involved

By Michelle Boorstein
June 13


Leading U.S. Catholic bishops on Wednesday escalated their criticism of the Trump administration’s immigration policies, calling new asylum-limiting rules “immoral” and rhetorically comparing the crackdown to abortion by saying it is a “a right-to-life” issue.

One bishop from the U.S.-Mexico border region reportedly suggested “canonical penalties” — which could refer to withholding the sacrament of Communion — for Catholics involved in implementing the Trump policies.

The comments came as the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops — the organizing body of bishops — gathered for a biannual meeting in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. The topics of migration and asylum have long been a focus for the U.S. church; more than 50 percent of U.S. Catholics under the age of 30 are Latinos.

The statements, including by the conference’s president, Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, archbishop of Galveston-Houston, came two days after Attorney General Jeff Sessions ruled that fear of domestic violence or gang violence aren’t clear grounds for seeking asylum in the United States. Sessions said asylum claims have expanded too broadly.

But the bishops said the ruling this week came on top of other Trump White House moves that they oppose. Those include ending a program that protected from deportation the “dreamers,” young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, and reducing significantly the number of refugees allowed into the United States.

“At its core, asylum is an instrument to preserve the right to life. The Attorney General’s recent decision elicits deep concern because it potentially strips asylum from many women who lack adequate protection. These vulnerable women will now face return to the extreme dangers of domestic violence in their home country. This decision negates decades of precedents that have provided protection to women fleeing domestic violence,” said a statement Wednesday by DiNardo in his capacity as USCCB president.

The statement also condemned the “continued use of family separation at the U.S./Mexico border as an implementation of the Administration’s zero tolerance policy. Our government has the discretion in our laws to ensure that young children are not separated from their parents and exposed to irreparable harm and trauma. Families are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to stay together.”

The bishops’ statement came a day after representatives of the biggest Protestant group in the United States — the Southern Baptist Convention — voted for a resolution that calls for protection of U.S. borders along with a “pathway to legal status” and an emphasis on protecting family units.

More>>>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/06/13/catholic-bishops-call-trumps-new-asylum-rules-immoral-with-one-suggesting-canonical-penalties-for-those-involved/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f13f7ef05e5




I know some on this board are agnostic or atheist and that's fine. To each their own. But the Catholic Church as well as others have been speaking out against Trumps immigration policies.

It was the subject of the sermon this Sunday and there were 2 articles about immigration policy and Christ's teachings in the weekly newsletter.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
14. Rump will be wanting these monkeys (children) off of his back pretty soon
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jun 2018

so that he can play golf and gorge on burgers and ice cream.

Move it along, please.

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