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democrank

(11,112 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:23 PM Jun 2018

Some personal thoughts about Trump's cruelty.

Forcibly separating a family....it's an awful, awful thing....a life-altering thing....for children to be alone facing frightening circumstances beyond their control or understanding. Imagine being a little child wondering who all these strangers are and whether or not you'll ever see your parents and siblings again. Many adults can't understand how this could have happened. Imagine the questions these children have.

It's obvious Donald Trump doesn't see these kids as human. Truth be told, they're probably a few rings down the ladder compared to the people he threw paper towels at in Puerto Rico. Suffering, traumatized people....and the president of the United States threw paper towels at them and didn't even bother to count how many of them died.

Then there was the disabled reporter Trump mocked.

Cruelty. He does it with a smile, with exaggerated hand gestures just to drive the point home. He does it with a lack of empathy so complete he seems sub-human, reckless, dangerous, someone you'd tell your kids to steer clear of.

I know about cruelty and how it hacks up optimism and makes kids tremble. We can not stay quiet about this. We must point to it, speak about it, say how abhorrent it is, say how we'll not tolerate
it.....and then act. Let's make certain these precious children learn about the power of love and compassion.

As for Donald Trump, his day is coming.

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Some personal thoughts about Trump's cruelty. (Original Post) democrank Jun 2018 OP
He's a sociopath, narcissist and a sadist. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2018 #1
Like most narcissists, Trump doesn't recognize the humanity, dignity or agency The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #2
Lack of empathy -- you're not the first to notice that - - RandomAccess Jun 2018 #3
And he should be treated as such dalton99a Jun 2018 #9
As for Donald Trump, his day is coming. volstork Jun 2018 #4
I think it's "affluenza" dawg day Jun 2018 #5
I've known a number of rich people, and none were like Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #7
yup, Trump would have been shitty even without the wealth. in fact he lost his wealth and it didn't JI7 Jun 2018 #8
Can you say sociopath? guillaumeb Jun 2018 #6

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,878 posts)
2. Like most narcissists, Trump doesn't recognize the humanity, dignity or agency
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:33 PM
Jun 2018

of anyone but himself. And non-white immigrants, to him, are simply disposable animals (note that Trump doesn't even have a pet, which is a good thing for any creature who might be so unfortunate). But though even animals care for their children, Trump probably doesn't even care for his own except to the extent that they reflect well on him, so the concept is lost on him.

Just when you think Trump and his toadies and enablers couldn't go any lower, he's using these kids as hostages to get Congressional Democrats to fund his wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for. I wish I believed in Hell...

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
5. I think it's "affluenza"
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:08 PM
Jun 2018

Really. So many rich people must end up jaded, being removed from most of the ordinary travails of real life. Trump is this way even more so than other really rich people, as he is remarkably lucky in his health, given his lifestyle. Yes, he lost a brother Fred Jr prematurely, but i doubt that bothered him much-- after all, when that brother's infant grandson needed extensive medical help for cerebral palsy, Trump actually tried to cut the family off the insurance policy. (Really-- who would vote for such a man? Then again, this all had to do with his cruel father cutting Fred Jr's family out of the will.)

There are many instances of Trump's almost default cruelty in this Atlantic article.

Anyway, I don't think Trump just doesn't care about the children at the border. I think he gets sadistic pleasure out of their suffering, and all us losers who are so lame we empathize.

Trump is missing something in his makeup, yes-- he doesn't empathize, and I also think he can't love (ask his kids... and wives). But I suspect also he is so jaded after a lifetime where everything went his way. I think he enjoys the suffering of others, like it's a TV show. (Remember he even talked about getting ratings for his "great work" in Puerto Rico.) I think the suffering gives him a charge.





The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,878 posts)
7. I've known a number of rich people, and none were like Trump.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:51 PM
Jun 2018

I know there are studies showing that with increasing wealth people (or some people) tend to become less generous rather than more. Yet there are many wealthy people who give generously to charities and foundations (real ones, not like Trump's), and I've known a few. I've also met a few rich assholes. But Trump is in a class by himself, and it's not just because he's rich. If he hadn't been rich he might have been just a garden-variety mobster or con man, or maybe a serial killer, but his wealth gave him the opportunity to be a weapons-grade sociopath whose sole mission in life is to aggrandize himself using his money, or the appearance of it, to bully and intimidate anyone who crossed him. There must be a deep, black hole in whatever might be left of his soul.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
8. yup, Trump would have been shitty even without the wealth. in fact he lost his wealth and it didn't
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:56 PM
Jun 2018

do anything to change him.

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