The answer would be something like, "My kids won't ever be treated that way because I'll never put them at risk of that like these awful parents have done."

want to be separated from him.

we punish their whole family, after all THEY broke the law?

The children who had "mental issues" we're put to death so they wouldn't contaminate the "master race"

And that would include the Special Olympics children he works with if this shit escalates.

They'd be first on the list

I can think of no time when someone’s mind was changed by a Facebook argument.

waste.... of.... time.

Just drop it.

But this situation is different. I’m concerned with media consolidation we are at a critical point and should use every opportunity to engage.

I’d tell them why I don’t support this policy, and remind him that without immigrants the US will have much higher prices. US workers dont do most agriculture jobs. Farms without workers doesn’t work. Meat packers, restaraunt kitchen workers, all over.

I’d ask him what it is about immigration that he doesn’t accept and tell him when he says they come here and get welfare that a. They can’t get benefits but they do pay into social security, and b. Here’s the tiny sliver of our budget that goes to welfare and the hugs half a pie that goes to military spending and contracts that enrich the richest.

I’d make the case for publicly financed elections since the politicians don’t work for the people any more.

I’d look for the values we can agree on.

I don’t think we can afford to cut ties and walk, family or not, but especially family.

I am advocating not carrying on a public disagreement on the pages of Facebook that will likely end badly. Have all the discussions you or anyone else wants to have with whomever they choose to, but disagreements on such a public forum will in most cases not change a single mind and may lead to a loss of communication with that member of the family.

The best you can do is to simply state that the Trump policy is cruel, illegal, and immoral, and leave it at that.

Till the gop policies turn around and bite them .. it's only until it happens to them that they care

"Please take the advice of your Dear Leader and GO FUCK YOURSELF"

Also; "Go fuck yourself sideways with a First Edition, Hard Cover copy of Atlas Shrugged, you worthless piece of amphibian shit"

You'd have better results trying to teach a goat to sing.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210746808

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210745566

I’ve tried to think of an analogy. My poor effort: It would be like being shipwrecked, but you and your kids survive. You’re taken in by a guy who sends you home, but keeps your kids so you’ll pay him back.

People who can justify shit like that will not listen to logical arguments.

Send them a message saying: You've obviously formed your opinion, I will no longer attempt to confuse you with facts.

Then un-friend them.

No. Not the talking point that it is Obama's/Democrat's fault...that one lasted a week or so.

Now I believe it is that the separations are not happening and it is all fake news.

But maybe he should wait until that changes. Hahaha

Actually, I would just report the link to the meme (if any) to FB and hide all other memes from the link (or just hide your cousin for 30 days). He is not worth your time.

argument go. You are arguing with a souless shell, and no good will come of that for you.

on the sidewalk. It's like the old saying about mud-wrestling with a hog: You'll never win and the hog enjoys it.

It is NOT ok on any level to abuse children (or support this fascist/nazi dictator wannabe) and that is exactly what is going on.

Disagreeing on tax reform is one thing - human rights is another.

Cut him off.

Miller aka Trump just said animals again yesterday

I know the type, I have some family like that as well. They are beyond saving and will never show a bit of empathy to people not like them.

When you argue with someone like that, the argument is secondary- really not that important. You are dealing with their ego, their feelings of being needed and important (referee/Special Olympics). You'll never win a political argument with them because they bask in the attention they are getting at that moment .

Let him cling to his excuses, he's chosen to stand with some of the worst events in recorded history. He's chosen to align himself with those who are universally condemned for what they did to children.

Start with the Romans, separating children of vanquished nations to be sold into slavery, a practice that also was adapted by slave traders who preyed upon Africans. The Nazis separated parents from children in concentration camps. Australia rounded up aboriginal children and forcibly reeducated them to wipe out their cultural identity. America and Canada practiced the similar policies, taking children away from native American people and warehousing them in boarding schools.

The Catholic church and other Christian sects, routinely took children from their mothers in an adoption scam to sell the kids to new parents, or provide a steady source of free labor to work at their businesses or to be hired out to factories and mines. The US govt snatched up Japanese children during WWII when their parents were arrested or deported or interned. Children have also been taken away from disabled parents or parents with Down's Syndrome, even though they were proven capable of caring for their kids. The US government also took kids with disabilities away from their parents and institutionalized them, under eugenics laws, forcing them to undergo sterilization.

Your right wing cousin he will be condemned, a immoral pariah, along with all the others who defended the same atrocities against children in the past. Congratulate him for having the chutzpah to aspire to emulate the monsters of history's darkest episodes where no good men would dare to go.

to try and argue.

You're welcome.

"I don't know how you got so cruel, but I hope for better for you in the future." If you can post it with credibility, consider signing off with, "I'll pray for you."

Take him off all your news feeds so you don't see his bullshit anymore, and if he insists on responding to your posts, you may want to block him.

Ask them why they assume that is the case for every person involved. Why do they assume that? Because that is what they would do? What would Right-Winger do if he lived in a violent area? Would he stay there with his children, or leave them behind while he looked for a better place? Or if he just lived in a poor area, is he telling us he would game the system, and so that is why he assumes others are?

The more you push the harder they push back. Stick with your beliefs and ignore the stupid is my best advice.

"It's all about November 8, 2016. It just drives you crazy. Do the jokes of Kathy whatshername, with Trumps head, or the slut at the White House correspondents dinner bother you. If not, than don't be a hypocrite. It cuts both ways. Someday your people will take control again and put us back on the path to the degradation of America. Until then, sit back and enjoy the ride!"



The part that really got me was "back on the path to the degradation of America." What the actual fuck does he think is going on every damn day under Trump?

I took your collective advice and quit. Good riddance.

And to never contact me again.

when compared to the previous year when they held up Obama's head? What was so much worse that Griffin needed to be fired from CNN? Especially when the holding up of Obama's severed head elicited nary a word from either side.

he will claim he wasn’t really a Trump supporter, or that he never supported this.

At that time show him the Facebook exchange.

You, at least will be on the right side of history.

You are pretty much wasting your breath and your time. If you have given it your best shot and you made all of your points and didn’t resort to name calling and other things that guarantee you won’t get heard, it is time to step away from the debate. Make one last attempt — if you feel you must — and then bow out. It is bad on your nerves and terrible for you mentally. I know. I have been in the same situation, only it was live, face to face for me. It ended up in a shouting match and lots of hurt feelings. And it was with my adult son.

He is a good man. And usually has a tender heart. But it was about tRump and the Russians and he could not accept it is as bad as it is. We must remember that they have been brain washed, subjected to a lot of propaganda. Plus, they just do not want to accept what is clearly happening in the US. It is too frightening so they just deny that it happened and continues. It is the same with the children being taken from their parents. They rationalize it to make it okay because that is what the propagandist tell them over and over.

For your own well being, have your final say and then leave it. Unless you have the power to overcome the propaganda message, you will not ever dissuade him of the things he firmly believes. Sadly, they will need to have an object lesson to learn. Like when they come after him. Then he might get it.

Their mind. Don’t waste your effort or time. These people are goners.

It's a game for geniuses and fools only. Geniuses can actually do it every once and again. Fools pretend to themselves they can do it.

Ten out of eleven people will tell us they'll gladly change their minds when presented with valid evidence supporting that change. And all ten of them are lying.

We're comforted far too much by our precious biases to allow additional perspectives, and we're much more passionate about what we hate than what we love.

Read any message board on the planet. There's the evidence.