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kwassa

(23,340 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:36 PM Jun 2018

I think this family separation policy is a power play by Trump.

He is emboldened by his polls among his base, and he is raising the stakes. Trump is testing the limits of his power.

Trump is also clearly the product of an abusive childhood, and he passes the abuse onward. He has no empathy for children, for apparently none was give to him. He had no interest in the parenting of his own young children.

He is also trying out a grandiose lie, that the Democrats are to blame, which is blatantly false, yet he restates it over and over. This is the bigger risk he takes, because this statement is so clearly and obviously false. He is trying to see if he can get away with it.

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I think this family separation policy is a power play by Trump. (Original Post) kwassa Jun 2018 OP
If he'd hurt children wo conscience Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #1
It's His Strategy To Get The Wall...... global1 Jun 2018 #2
yes they all sound liike d_r Jun 2018 #3
IMO, Trump wanted photo-ops/videos of masses of Hispanic males that attempt to cross the US border Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #4
If he stays in office for much longer there are going to be Doreen Jun 2018 #5
Don't forget about thousands dead in Puerto Rico! JonAndKatePlusABird Jun 2018 #7
24/7 he is testing to see what he can get away with. tomp Jun 2018 #6
He is a sociopath, not a victim of child abuse. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #8
A sociopath grows up in an enviroment ... kwassa Jun 2018 #9
I just checked that out... BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #10
I think he's a step or ten ahead of you RandomAccess Jun 2018 #11

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
1. If he'd hurt children wo conscience
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:40 PM
Jun 2018

what do you think he would encourage to be done to Democrats? Showing his true colors. Thanks for nothing Mr Mueller. It's getting to be too late for all this stupidity.
Mueller comes to "the rescue" 2021 w a report.....well...we indicted 65 foreigners, coupla Americans. We found no evidence dt or his family did anything wrong."
Prove me wrong Mueller.
Prove me wrong.

global1

(25,285 posts)
2. It's His Strategy To Get The Wall......
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:48 PM
Jun 2018

that's why Sarah and Nielsen are saying - he wants complete legislation on this and not just something that ends this Zero Tolerance Policy. His idea of complete legislation is to get his funding for the Wall. He is using the children as his pawns to blackmail the Dems to shoulder the blame for this inhumane treatment of these kids because they failed to give him legislation that provides monies for the Wall. Their talking point is that they don't want to kick the can down the road and they want this issue solved once and for all.

Again - if I were the Dems I'd work with those Repugs that have some compassion and put forth legislation that closes the loophole that Nielsen was talking about. Such legislation will not get the support of all the Repugs and this will fail. Then the Dems can turn this around and show the American People who the real obstructionists are.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
3. yes they all sound liike
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:49 PM
Jun 2018

the freaking mobsters that they are.

"It is so sad to see these families separated, I really hate that it has to be this way, if only we could build that wall then this wouldn't be happening."

Freethinker65

(10,069 posts)
4. IMO, Trump wanted photo-ops/videos of masses of Hispanic males that attempt to cross the US border
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:54 PM
Jun 2018

He then would claim that most are "bad hombres", criminals, MS-13 members, etc. here to harm US citizens, take our jobs, and use up our social programs (food, housing, medical care, and education) to encite fear.

To get those photo-ops/videos, Trump needed to separate the women and children from the older males. First they said the separation of the kids was a genius Trump policy to deter potential border crossers, then it was blamed on Obama, then they said Trump was powerless to change current law, then they denied doing it, and now they admit it but object to the term "cages".

"Kids in cages" is not the photo-op Trump intended.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
5. If he stays in office for much longer there are going to be
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:54 PM
Jun 2018

many deaths. Those deaths are going to be on a large scale and it will include us as regular legal citizens and our children also. This Border children issue is just the beginning. If he numbs his deplorables to this they will be more accepting of further action even if/when it happens to them. Hasn't he done that already? So far EVERYTHING has been a power play for him.

7. Don't forget about thousands dead in Puerto Rico!
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:57 PM
Jun 2018

If there's anything about Trump that I can say with confidence, it's that he doesn't give a FUCK about anybody else but himself.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
6. 24/7 he is testing to see what he can get away with.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:56 PM
Jun 2018

it is classic authoritarianism and it is his modus operandi and his raison d'etre.

Testing, period.

BigmanPigman

(51,640 posts)
8. He is a sociopath, not a victim of child abuse.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:57 PM
Jun 2018

Also, it is all to get his wall funded by Dems. His ratings have taken a hit on this one though.

BigmanPigman

(51,640 posts)
10. I just checked that out...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 07:33 PM
Jun 2018

I wanted to see the roots of the sociopaths behavior and as I was reading it said that a sociopath has two personalities sort of like the astrological sign Gemini. The moron just had a birthday...he IS a Gemini...perfect!
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-is-2020/201304/understanding-the-sociopath-cause-motivation-relationship

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
11. I think he's a step or ten ahead of you
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 08:08 PM
Jun 2018

He's DONE "testing" anything. He's now busily implementing.

He has seen very clearly that the Republicans won't stand up to him; that his lies are inconsequential in the grand scheme of things; that the more he floods the zone with his nonsense including minor outrages the more freedom he has to do other things that don't get media coverage; that the more he doubles down and bulldozes through, the more he wins.

Nope. It's damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead for Trump. He has literally nothing to lose and everything -- the world! -- to gain.

We are in a VERY perilous place. Very.

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