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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 09:12 AM Jun 2018

Why are Republicans grasping for excuses on family separation? Because their voters support it

Trump and his supporters keep struggling to rationalize an indefensible policy — because their voters love it

AMANDA MARCOTTE
JUNE 19, 2018 10:00AM (UTC)

The number of excuses and outright lies coming out of the mouths of Donald Trump's administration and their supporters to justify tearing apart the families of people seeking political asylum has become dizzying. Children are being forcibly taken from parents who have a legal right to apply for asylum and put in detention centers that literally feature cages. There appears to be no plan for reuniting these children with their families. It's undeniably a bad look, and Trump and his apologists are coughing up a confusing and often contradictory set of lies and distortions in an effort to put some vaguely acceptable spin on the story.

So far, Trump has tried to blame family separation on the Democrats, even though it's his own policy. But then, he has also argued that the policy is justified to scare refugees away from applying for asylum, arguing that the "United States will not be a migrant camp," which he claims is "what’s happening in Europe." He has tweeted, "Crime in Germany is way up," and blamed that alleged fact on immigrants and refugees. (Crime is actually down in Germany.) Attorney General Jeff Sessions tried a biblical argument, using a verse from scripture that slave-owners also liked to quote, in an apparent claim that separating families at the border is God's will.

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen tried flat-out lying, saying, "We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period." When confronted with a document from Sessions outlining the policy she said did not exist, as well as evidence of White House Chief of Staff John Kelly defending it, Nielsen switched gears, claiming she had been misunderstood. Her new line: "We will not apologize for the job we do."

As often happens with these things, defenders of the policy started to cling to euphemisms and semantic arguments, with the Border Patrol saying it is "uncomfortable" with the word "cages." Right-wing pundits tried to paint the forcible separations as something like summer camp, with Laura Ingraham claiming that the stolen children get "four meals a day" and Breitbart editor Joel Pollak saying it's "better than what they had," citing a racist belief that the children's parents have denied them "knowledge of basic hygiene." (No, seriously: He said the kids wouldn't know what showers were if their Border Patrol captors hadn't shown them.)

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https://www.salon.com/2018/06/19/why-are-republicans-grasping-for-excuses-on-family-separation-because-their-voters-support-it/

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Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
1. Made this point on a post yesterday.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 09:17 AM
Jun 2018

The deplorables are downright giddy with this "policy". The have no problem inflicting pain or hardship on people of color and it's got us liberals screaming bloody murder. It's a win-win in their sick view.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
2. A deplorable told me he wants watch towers on the border filled with snipers w/ shoot to kill orders
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 09:28 AM
Jun 2018

They think imprisoning the immigrants and asylum seekers is not a sufficiently harsh deterrent.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
4. The FB comments on CSPANs poll yesterday provide plenty of evidence.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 09:54 AM
Jun 2018

Yep, we live in a nation with way too many soulless evil fucks. Most of them not in public office, but sitting next to us on a train, working across the hall, and living down the street.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. Must be uncomfortable, having to double down on the bullshit they only pretended to believe.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:12 AM
Jun 2018

The time seems to be approaching when they'll have to choose between pandering to the cruelest twenty percent and appealing to a broader base that could reelect them.

I predict that money will once again be the deciding factor.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
6. I flipped over to CSPAN and the Washington Journal this a.m. and heard the most nasty,
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:14 AM
Jun 2018

hateful callers. One woman from California was especially awful. These are the kind of people who drown unwanted puppies.

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