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Dutch have called in the US ambassador (Original Post) deminks Jun 2018 OP
the rest of civilization will soon kick us to the curb... Moostache Jun 2018 #1
they may well do that bdamomma Jun 2018 #17
I think "Kindercampen" should be in our political vocabulary. Paladin Jun 2018 #2
economic sanctions coming to the US... China will back the proposal lapfog_1 Jun 2018 #3
Personal sanctions on Trump et al should be on the table RockRaven Jun 2018 #4
I would like to see them prosecuted on The Hague for crimes against humanity. Zoonart Jun 2018 #5
Given how the US is now in uncharted territory anything is possible lunatica Jun 2018 #7
The US isn't subject to the ICC unfortunately DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2018 #11
They can seize Trump Towers everywhere. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #18
I wonder how many of these laws and statutes are out there MarcA Jun 2018 #21
me too. bdamomma Jun 2018 #19
Freeze all Trump assets in every country that they are doing business in. NBachers Jun 2018 #16
+1 ck4829 Jun 2018 #25
Yes. trump, sessions, miller, gop, anyone else involved wirh the torture of children ..must be sanct RestoreAmerica2020 Jun 2018 #27
The Dutch blew the whistle on Hitler and his crew Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #6
Good! lunatica Jun 2018 #8
Going to get butt ugly in Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #10
They are getting what they wished for but they should have thought it lunatica Jun 2018 #12
Good Solly Mack Jun 2018 #9
Good. I hope they kick him out of the country. BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #13
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2018 #14
The free world won't stay silent for long. world wide wally Jun 2018 #15
oh they won't stay quiet on this bdamomma Jun 2018 #20
The dutch may have there issues, but the are sane and smart and they care about human beings. pangaia Jun 2018 #22
The Kidnapper-in-Chief will answer to The Hague after impeachment. oasis Jun 2018 #23
Kick ck4829 Jun 2018 #24
Yes. The international community cannot let this continue. C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #26
Trump's ambassador to the Netherlands was caught lying to Dutch natiional TV the day he arrived DFW Jun 2018 #28
I know you are in Europe . Is this US separation plan at the border well known there or not big news lunasun Jun 2018 #30
Every night in the world news here DFW Jun 2018 #32
Oh, that is so good to hear. I just realized Hortensis Jun 2018 #34
Not a peep, at least as far as the German media is concerned DFW Jun 2018 #35
They can start helping by calling this out if our government won't help maybe international aid lunasun Jun 2018 #29
In another two years this country won't be recognizable....another six...? kiss it goodbye. spanone Jun 2018 #31
Remember, Remember, that day this November... OnDoutside Jun 2018 #33
I was just thinking today that I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled out of the UN. Amaryllis Jun 2018 #36
Any sign of human kindness and humanity Cha Jun 2018 #37

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. the rest of civilization will soon kick us to the curb...
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jun 2018

This government is an international criminal cabal, NOT a representation of the United States of America...

The international community should spurn the USA until the government is returned to sanity and basic human decency.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
17. they may well do that
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jun 2018

kick us to the curb, or better yet how is any different from what Bashar al-Assad (Syria) has done to his own people and who is to say it won't be done to the citizens of this country. We can already see anyone who worships tRump is in his good graces anyone who is against him will be condemned, such as liberals, gays, women. minorities which is already happening.

Or maybe will Kim Kardashian come to the rescue of these children and parents who are being separated.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
2. I think "Kindercampen" should be in our political vocabulary.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:38 PM
Jun 2018

Present-day Dutch is close enough to Nazi-era German for our fight against the trump regime.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
3. economic sanctions coming to the US... China will back the proposal
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jun 2018

Russia will abstain.

We will be estranged from much of the the world economy.

RockRaven

(14,972 posts)
4. Personal sanctions on Trump et al should be on the table
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:41 PM
Jun 2018

Human rights abusers should be international pariahs, and pay the price for it.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
7. Given how the US is now in uncharted territory anything is possible
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:56 PM
Jun 2018

Implementing sanctions on us probably won’t work because we can survive quite well if we have to, but sanctioning Trump et al would hurt him and his family. Prosecuting him as a criminal against humanity would be possible. The world should make this personal. Most Americans probably have.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
11. The US isn't subject to the ICC unfortunately
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:09 PM
Jun 2018

We refused to ratify the Rome Statute and have laws on the books that bars any cooperation with them in at any level with most matters(the Nethercutt amendment). Further, the Military is legally obligated to rescue any US or allied personnel held by the ICC(Armed Service Members Protection Act).

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
21. I wonder how many of these laws and statutes are out there
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 02:57 PM
Jun 2018

and what if some other nation's personnel is held by the U.S.
and they are required to rescue them. That could make for
some interesting situations.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
19. me too.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jun 2018

I was wondering that myself, if they pull out of the UN Human Rights Commission can they get the thugs?

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
27. Yes. trump, sessions, miller, gop, anyone else involved wirh the torture of children ..must be sanct
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 03:27 PM
Jun 2018

...sanctioned, censured and or be charged for crimes against humanity.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Going to get butt ugly in
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jun 2018

short order. Yesterday's admissions by Roger Stone and Caputo as to their direct involvement with Russia,seems to be driving the Trump Crime Syndicate's PR message today.

This whole Immigration Story is fodder for the Mid Terms. It worked for them in 2016 and the GOP Strategists are doubling down with the help of the Russian/Mercer Bot network.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. They are getting what they wished for but they should have thought it
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jun 2018

Through a little bit. Trump with his extremely limited imagination and vision pompously believed he was putting the Democrats in such a terrible position that in their ‘weakness’ they would cave to his demands. You know, the art of the deal thing. He believed the Democrats would come crawling to him to stop the child’s abuse.

Trumps’s idea of a deal is to break his opposition and destroy it, coming out the only winner.

On a different note I see you’re a Teamster. So am I! I love my union! They improved my life and because of them I was able to retire instead of working for the next 10 years. That is if I was allowed to work until I turn 80.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
22. The dutch may have there issues, but the are sane and smart and they care about human beings.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 03:09 PM
Jun 2018

A good Dutch friend of mine told me yesterday, our only hope is STORMY !!

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
26. Yes. The international community cannot let this continue.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 03:25 PM
Jun 2018

We deserve all the shaming and sanctions that come our way.

DFW

(54,404 posts)
28. Trump's ambassador to the Netherlands was caught lying to Dutch natiional TV the day he arrived
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 03:29 PM
Jun 2018

They should declare him persona non grata, send him home, and admonish the State Department (or, rather, what's left of it) to send a real diplomat, or send no one.

I am in the Netherlands almost every week for work. I speak Dutch, and get along well with everyone I work with and otherwise deal with. I don't attend state dinners or meet with the royal family or the foreign ministry, but I dare say I do the USA a hell of a lot more good in the Netherlands than the clown Trump appointed to "represent" us there.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
30. I know you are in Europe . Is this US separation plan at the border well known there or not big news
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jun 2018

since it's happening overseas ?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Oh, that is so good to hear. I just realized
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 04:22 PM
Jun 2018

I hadn't heard anything about our ambassador to Germany since earlier in the month. Is he still agitating for a far right resurgence, expected to be on his way home soon, ... ?

DFW

(54,404 posts)
35. Not a peep, at least as far as the German media is concerned
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:09 PM
Jun 2018

It is entirely possible he was advised to crawl under the nearest rock and not come out until he developed laryngitis. That would have been good advice, anyway. Being a Republican, whether or not he took it is another matter entirely.

Republican political appointees to ambassadorial posts have a history of being obtuse and annoying.

A good friend of mine was Canada's ambassador to the USA during Bill Clinton's last term. After Clinton left office, my friend finished up his long career in the Canadian foreign service as their ambassador to France (he is from Québec). Now, the residence of the Canadian ambassador in Paris some amazing kind of "house." It is an incredible building, more like an urban castle the Canadians had the good sense to buy up for a song at the end of World War II. In the living room/reception area, there is a long grand piano, upon which my friend had photos of him and the heads of state he had served under, from scoundrels like Mobutu of Zaire all the way to Bill Clinton.

When he met the new American ambassador to France, some idiot political appointee hack who was a Texan friend of Bush Lite, the guy's wife started nagging him about why there wasn't a photo of him with GW Bush. Raymond patiently tried to explain that he had not served as Ambassador while Bush was in office, and therefore there was no photo of him. The stupid woman didn't get it at all, and kept pestering him until one day when Bush was visiting Paris (probably thought it was Montréal), she arranged for a photo of Raymond and Bush together, which he put on the piano whenever Bush's ambassador was coming over, so he wouldn't have to listen to the guy's wife's pestering all over again. Republicans are like that.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
29. They can start helping by calling this out if our government won't help maybe international aid
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 03:29 PM
Jun 2018

by ostracizing the US can make a change

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