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That one unfortunate, misplaced battlecry?
Everyday, in some form or another, I'm seeing or hearing essentially the same thing from the tRump gang o'goons. Outrageous squawking, whether intelligible or not, what's the common reaction?
Crickets. Nada
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)when someone tries to shame you or your candidate for being a human being.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)yonder
(9,666 posts)If that example doesn't suggest some kind of American/Russian, plutocratic grip on the Wheels of the World (and Words), I don't know what does.
Hawaii Hiker
(3,166 posts)wearing a helmet and riding around in a tank in closing months of the 1988 election.....
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)And they basically came to the conclusion that his actual scream likely didnt sound anything like what we hear, but the way that audio was set up that distorted it.
He essentially got screwed by bad audio processing.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)so it seemed the noise coming through Howard Dean's microphone was extremely loud.
I read that his voice sounded very normal in that noisey room, and someone absolutely diminished all other sound.
God only knows why any fool in the world would have wanted to make fun of it, even if he had sounded that way. It was absolutely nothing worth mentioning at all. Not ever.
The scums just pick out a target to focus on, then start encouraging the criminally insane Republicans to feed on it. People as low as Republicans pretend they are always above everything considered different, or unfamiliar to people as limited as themselves, ignorant, undisciplined, slow, crude, primitive a-holes.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)He used a mic that was designed to only capture him and not the crowd, and since it was really loud in there his natural reaction was to raise his voice to be heard and pull the mic really close to his mount. So he ended up overloading the mic.
It sounded normal to everyone in the room, but what came out of the mic was totally different.
brooklynite
(94,592 posts)A third place finish in Iowa and lousy organization in NH.
unblock
(52,253 posts)al gore was so honest they had to make up a lie and pretend he said ("inventing" the internet) and bashed him relentlessly over it.
then as now, the media gave massive coverage to the lie and negligible coverage to the truth (including, that the internet owes a massive amount of gratitude to al gore for all he did to make the internet what it is today -- early funding, huge support in congress, and spearheaded a massive effort as vice president to get tons of federal data online, making the internet a hugely valuable resource for businesses and individuals alike.
dukakis was destroyed because they decided he looked silly in a tank helmet.
gore was again vilified for making exasperated sighs when shrub lied. again, the media covered the sigh, but not the republican lies.
hillary was investigated as a criminal for (a) state employees dying on the job, something that happens to virtually every modern administration and (b) using a private server, on the recommendation of her two previous (republican) predecessors.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Making an innocuous statement look ridiculous.
tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)These folks don't play by the same rules!
Stop joining in and eating our own folks when they point out their flaws. Seriously, if our folks have not committed current egregious atrocities then we need to give em some slack. Their folks are allowed to be the most abhorrent and still thrive in the political arena. We need to stop the madness of joining in.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)He and Gephardt were the ones who were supposed to win Iowa according to the national media, which ignored that Kerry was surging in the last weeks - and came in first in the last poll the Des Moines Register did.
The results of the Iowa caucus was that Kerry got 38%, Edwards 30%, and Dean 18%. Had there been no "scream", what would the media stories have been? Instead of rotating between Dean's scream and small bits of Kerry's victory speech, it would have been commentary on why Dean imploded and Kerry's victory.
The next state was NH, where Dean's numbers had peaked in 2003. He lost some to Clark, who was briefly the frontrunner, when he entered. When Iowa happened, Clark had just imploded and most of his voters went to undecided. After Iowa, Dean's numbers stayed pretty constant. Kerry, like every Iowa winner got momentum and he gained the bulk of the undecided and many still with Clark. Kerry won NH.
Then, the final blow was that because the Dean campaign, which in December 2003 had the most money because of his success raising it on the internet, had blown a huge amount of money on Iowa and NH and was near broke. Dean made the decision not to contest the next set because - MO, OK, SC, ND, DE, AZ, and NM were not states where his team thought a new englander would do well. They gambled that Clark and Edwards would split the states - ending with no real front runner. Dean could then pull ahead by winning in the next group.
That failed when Kerry won 5 of the contests and nearly tied Edwards and Clark (they both had 30 with Clark higher) and Kerry 27. In SC, Kerry was second to Edwards. At that point, Kerry, allthough the media portrayed it as a victory for both Kerry and media favorite, Edwards - Kerry was almost certain to win.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Losing and losing badly in Iowa killed his campaign.
yonder
(9,666 posts)but what do people remember?
The scream. Some engineer playing with levels, a hot mike, the press pushing endless replays of that. That's what's remembered and demonstrates the power of the press in shaping any message.
We're dealing with a double standard here, with respect to favorable "shaped" press exposure, and for whatever reason the Democrats always seem to be taking in the shorts.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I have yet to see a cable outlet take a similar tack with anything Trump has said, particularly when Trump claims he never said something he's being asked about now.
yonder
(9,666 posts)We know this double standard exists - there are many examples. Yet, why is it there? What can we do about it?
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Kerry in Iowa with Ted Kennedy, many MA firemen, many Kerry allied Vietnam vets, the REAL people who were on Kerry's swiftboat, the marine, who became a law enforcement professional and Republican who he saved in Vietnam. Add to that a very happy John Kerry, Teresa, and the rest of their family.
The Dean scream likely embarrassed Dean, but it ate the oxygen that could have fueled Kerry's campaign more than it did. As it was, he ran an incredible primary campaign that won the nomination more convincingly than any campaign where there was no incumbent VP or President running.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)The battle cry didnt help, certainly, but the rally was after he did poorly at a caucus he had tried very hard to win and banked heavily upon.
budkin
(6,703 posts)Who knows what sort of damage he would have done to this county!