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Why will it take them two more days to show the girls and the toddlers? (Original Post) malaise Jun 2018 OP
Well, they have to edit the video to only show smiling happy faces. Cattledog Jun 2018 #1
This n/t wonkwest Jun 2018 #34
where did they say this? IcyPeas Jun 2018 #2
Nicole Wallace just said that's that DHS said n/t malaise Jun 2018 #4
That's a lot of kids to prep for display. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #3
Precisely malaise Jun 2018 #5
Takes time to make a decent propaganda short? Solly Mack Jun 2018 #6
Media must demand entry malaise Jun 2018 #8
They should. May take people pushing their way in... Solly Mack Jun 2018 #16
Stop complaining. Even North Korea takes a little longer to put these displays together!!111!!1 PSPS Jun 2018 #7
I have not had access to TV today. was this news?? riversedge Jun 2018 #9
That's what the DHS folks told Jacob malaise Jun 2018 #12
Thanks so much. It is just so strange for DHS not to have shown the girls riversedge Jun 2018 #14
Casting calls take time Brother Buzz Jun 2018 #10
Don't rule that out malaise Jun 2018 #13
I could almost entertain the idea that they would attempt to plant one, two, three ringers.... Brother Buzz Jun 2018 #17
Good question. Seems like a normal humane bronxiteforever Jun 2018 #11
Two days is enough time to fake up some records? haele Jun 2018 #15
They cannot have a chaotic scene play out on TV and DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #18
Maybe they need us looking at this while the finish something they don't want us to see. rainin Jun 2018 #19
That's when the sedatives kick in? my guess. deminks Jun 2018 #20
But will they be showing old photos from 2016? womanofthehills Jun 2018 #21
Quite likely they look like feral kids through no fault of their own. lpbk2713 Jun 2018 #22
Its not just a cover up, they are also doing a massive cleanup of the facility procon Jun 2018 #23
Just like a *surprise" OSHA inspection. lpbk2713 Jun 2018 #25
++Yep unfortunately when young worked for big co. and learned that's what happens lunasun Jun 2018 #38
Same here. lpbk2713 Jun 2018 #39
How soon before they're selling these kids to right wing evangelicals? hunter Jun 2018 #24
+ my thought also along with who are these non profits with violations already ? lunasun Jun 2018 #40
I have no faith in Republican connected subcontractors. hunter Jun 2018 #41
Remember the contractors from whitefish Montana in charge of Puerto Rico's energy rebuild 1 example lunasun Jun 2018 #42
My post yesterday Horse with no Name Jun 2018 #44
We were told it couldn't happen here... hunter Jun 2018 #45
Horribly wrong Horse with no Name Jun 2018 #46
And who is going to believe they are genuine when we finally see the pictures? unitedwethrive Jun 2018 #26
Katy Tur and NBC field reporters suggested that the narrative is MS-13 gang members and that babies Hekate Jun 2018 #27
They're sick malaise Jun 2018 #30
Yes they are Hekate Jun 2018 #31
I really hope there are people working inside those prison camps Crunchy Frog Jun 2018 #28
I hope so too. Unless all cell phones are removed from employees at the door, we can hope. nt Hekate Jun 2018 #32
There are plenty of other devices besides cell phones. Crunchy Frog Jun 2018 #33
Good. Hekate Jun 2018 #35
Who is in charge of record keeping for these kids? MontanaMama Jun 2018 #29
Didn't the Nazis do the same kind of clean-it-up-ahead-of-inspection... 3catwoman3 Jun 2018 #36
Potemkin Kindergarten waddirum Jun 2018 #37
They have to have time to brainwash them and clean up the concentration camps. MoonRiver Jun 2018 #43
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. That's a lot of kids to prep for display.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 04:25 PM
Jun 2018

Food, clothing, baths, sedatives.....

There are no reasons for delay outside of them currently looking horrific to the point they aren't fit for public consumption. No Trump, I'm, not suggesting you eat them.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
14. Thanks so much. It is just so strange for DHS not to have shown the girls
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 04:33 PM
Jun 2018

places also. so strange.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
17. I could almost entertain the idea that they would attempt to plant one, two, three ringers....
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jun 2018

but I suspect they know it would unravel faster then they could spit. Then again, they might be stupid enough to actually give it a try.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
11. Good question. Seems like a normal humane
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 04:31 PM
Jun 2018

Government should have no problem with answering this question quickly. After all they are in “custody”.
But it is not normal.

haele

(12,660 posts)
15. Two days is enough time to fake up some records?
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 04:34 PM
Jun 2018

Get enough information from the older kids who can talk, and make up shit about the toddlers and babies, then enter it all into a computer and pretend the information was there all along when the press comes in.

I doubt they have few if any records that accompanied the children as they were separated. Maybe not even a case file number.

It's pretty obvious the DoJ wasn't expecting any sort of audit of this policy, they just started taking kids and moving them around willy-nilly as spots opened up; according to an NPR story this morning on Morning Edition, a boy was moved from a Texas border patrol station to San Diego within 6 or 7 hours, while his father was still being processed. The man didn't even know his son had been taken out of Texas, and it was never put in the father's records that his son was with him when he went before the judge. They all found out about the situation when he asked the judge when he could see his son again...

Haele

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
18. They cannot have a chaotic scene play out on TV and
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jun 2018

in various youtube and other videos. If they think the audio tapes caused outrage among the non-cultists, wait until people see pictures of babies and toddlers held in detention.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
19. Maybe they need us looking at this while the finish something they don't want us to see.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jun 2018

They think they can get it done in 2 days so the orders are to delay. Just a thought.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
22. Quite likely they look like feral kids through no fault of their own.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 04:54 PM
Jun 2018



The guards are not supposed to touch them so their appearance and personal
hygiene has probably declined since they were first taken prisoner.

procon

(15,805 posts)
23. Its not just a cover up, they are also doing a massive cleanup of the facility
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:01 PM
Jun 2018

to make it look beautiful. The dirty walls are being painted and the grimy floors will be power washed, bathroom facilities will get repaired and sanitized. New beds and linens replace the thin plastic mats and mylar film, sleeping areas partitioned and not overcrowded, play zones are well equipped, inspiring messages and lovely posters will be placed. Clean clothing and personal hygiene items are being doled out. The food service is being upgraded. Proper staffing is being bussed in and record keeping is being created to comply with laws.

It happens all the time when a government facility is alerted in advance of an upcoming inspection. That's why its so important that oversight inspection teams should arrive unannounced to see these facilities and interview the residents without their jailers.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
25. Just like a *surprise" OSHA inspection.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:07 PM
Jun 2018



If it's a big business they get at least two days advance notice.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
24. How soon before they're selling these kids to right wing evangelicals?
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jun 2018

This is getting scary, reminiscent of the Dirty War in Argentina.




lunasun

(21,646 posts)
40. + my thought also along with who are these non profits with violations already ?
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:50 PM
Jun 2018

What is the quality of subcontractors ?
The child could get lost a lot of places as time goes on

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
42. Remember the contractors from whitefish Montana in charge of Puerto Rico's energy rebuild 1 example
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 06:08 PM
Jun 2018

Their lack of concern for human lives already known as is their grifting at the taxpayers expense

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
44. My post yesterday
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jun 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210752768

>>>>>snip

So. When you ask where the infants and girls are....my mind tells me that they will be handed out like party favors to God fearing xtians.
I don’t expect to be proven wrong and highly doubt we will ever know for sure.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
46. Horribly wrong
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 06:43 PM
Jun 2018

my biggest fear is that we can't stop this....that is what is keeping me awake at night.
I think there will be a large number of kids who don't get reunited with their parents.
My biggest dream is that we can stop this....I look forward to seeing this orange menace swinging in the breeze at the Hague.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
27. Katy Tur and NBC field reporters suggested that the narrative is MS-13 gang members and that babies
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:12 PM
Jun 2018

...and girls don't play into that narrative.

Got that? Apparently little boys are going to enter gangs straight off.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
28. I really hope there are people working inside those prison camps
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:13 PM
Jun 2018

Making covert video and audio recordings.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
33. There are plenty of other devices besides cell phones.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:32 PM
Jun 2018

Much more difficult to detect and confiscate.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
29. Who is in charge of record keeping for these kids?
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:14 PM
Jun 2018

How many will disappear into child sex slave and human trafficking webs? Are babies being sold? I’m worried about ALL of these children but it is especially disturbing that the girls and the toddlers are gone. We have thousands of irreparably damaged kids that will most likely not get help to get through this trauma.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
36. Didn't the Nazis do the same kind of clean-it-up-ahead-of-inspection...
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 05:40 PM
Jun 2018

...of some of the Jewish ghettos before allowing the Red Cross in? I know of one, for certain

Link to story of Theresienstadt:

https://www.bartleby.com/essay/Theresienstadt-A-Model-Jewish-Ghetto-F3MYTNZVJ

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