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Wounded Bear

(58,728 posts)
1. You can't 'trust' anything about Trump...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jun 2018

Except for one thing. You can 'trust' that Trump will attempt to do something to help himself, no matter what the issue.

4. It's all show and no go.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:35 PM
Jun 2018

He'll get his photo op holding the document up like a five year old showing his mommie his latest drawing, but what's actually written on it will be as worthless as the paper he and Kim Yung Un signed in Singapore.

Unless the document contains words to the effect of, "All children currently in the care of HHS will be reunited with their parents," the paper is worth nothing.

The U.S. does not hold children and babies (!) in internment camps.

Eugene

(61,964 posts)
5. The order will now hold families INDEFINITELY.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jun 2018

Source: New York Times

Trump Plans Executive Order to Allow Detaining Families Together Indefinitely

By Maggie Haberman and Michael D. Shear
June 20, 2018

President Trump is preparing to issue an executive order as soon as Wednesday that ends the separation of families at the border by indefinitely detaining parents and children together, according to a person familiar with the White House plans.

Mr. Trump’s executive order would seek to get around an existing 1997 consent decree, known as the Flores settlement, that prohibits the federal government from keeping children in immigration detention — even if they are with their parents — for more than 20 days.

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html

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There is always a crooked angle when Trump is involved.

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
8. It won't matter this is on him...and the closer it gets to midterms the worse it will be for the
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jun 2018

GOP. Maybe we can leverage this even with our limited power some sort of bill to help DACA too...but it won't be the bill we want...have to remember that we have no power.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
16. What about the children already in baby jails?
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:43 PM
Jun 2018

What about the children already separated whose parents have been deported? What about the children moved to other states? When does reunification begin?

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
13. I doubt it...the pressure must be on for this to happen.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:52 PM
Jun 2018

What could be worse than baby jails with babies in cages?

lame54

(35,328 posts)
14. Families sticking together is indeed better...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jun 2018

But as a family they may be kept indefinitely
Besides
Trump used the word temporary
The evil man wants to keep it as a future option

lame54

(35,328 posts)
11. We don't know yet...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jun 2018

If it will wipe it out
It could twist it into something worse
And it won't cover the families already damaged by his evil policy

wiggs

(7,819 posts)
18. How can they prosecute people crossing at entry points when it isn't illegal to seek asylum? Isn't
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:46 PM
Jun 2018

that a bottom line problem here? When they try to prosecute and bring a case to court, won't the judge just throw it out?

And even crossings between points of entry are misdemeanors, correct? Do you detain and then prosecute in court for misdemeanors?

Just like everything, so much confusion of issues, facts, resolution.

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