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shraby

(21,946 posts)
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:55 AM Jun 2018

A judge needs to order trump to produce every child and every parent who came here since

his infamous order and reunite them. If there is one parent left over that he doesn't produce a child for who had one, he and
HHS should be charged with kidnapping and dereliction of duty.

Before one child was taken from the parent, there should have been a system in place to reunite them.

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A judge needs to order trump to produce every child and every parent who came here since (Original Post) shraby Jun 2018 OP
Yes!!! rainin Jun 2018 #1
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jun 2018 #2
Let's say a judge orders what you have said. And Trump refuses the order. Impeachment. Stuart G Jun 2018 #3
The judge would order the head of the department who has them to return them. shraby Jun 2018 #8
Yes, yes, yes a thiusand times! Lonestarblue Jun 2018 #26
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Jun 2018 #4
We may soon find out what a cornered trump* is capable of doing Siwsan Jun 2018 #5
Not true. He's a baby who will cave when the heat is on. blake2012 Jun 2018 #7
I hope you are right, but then what will he do in revenge? Siwsan Jun 2018 #9
Absolutely! duforsure Jun 2018 #6
Trump should have to sign a pardon for every parent and child. Delmette2.0 Jun 2018 #25
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2018 #10
Thank YOU. shraby Jun 2018 #11
One of the things H2O Man Jun 2018 #13
Yes, there ARE things we can do as individuals to help. nt CaptainTruth Jun 2018 #24
K&R Raven Jun 2018 #12
Yes absolutely! Dem_4_Life Jun 2018 #14
It's a high crime by Trump: kidnapping when taking children with no intention to reunite them. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #15
Somebody will have to explain to me how this is NOT kidnapping. world wide wally Jun 2018 #16
Good Strategy Roy Rolling Jun 2018 #17
Trump is hiding some very dark secret. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #18
Yes, this should happen. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #19
No excuses to justify lack of accounting bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #20
Exactly. This isn't North Korea, where people "disappear." Or is it? nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #21
K&R gademocrat7 Jun 2018 #22
Absolutely. K&R... spanone Jun 2018 #23
They don't know. zentrum Jun 2018 #27
There must be accountability. Otherwise we KPN Jun 2018 #28
K&R, the fuster cluck crew will screw up anything. This is how we know it was from the hip uponit7771 Jun 2018 #29
Mandatory DNA testing SCVDem Jun 2018 #30
THIS THIS THIS!!! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2018 #31
Can we as citizens firstwife Jun 2018 #32

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
3. Let's say a judge orders what you have said. And Trump refuses the order. Impeachment.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:57 AM
Jun 2018

Trump cannot refuse the order of a judge. He will. That is who he is.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
8. The judge would order the head of the department who has them to return them.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:05 AM
Jun 2018

Incarceration for contempt of court if the order is refused until the children/parents are produced.

Lonestarblue

(10,053 posts)
26. Yes, yes, yes a thiusand times!
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jun 2018

These abusers need to know that there are consequences for i,ple,entaing a deliberate policy to terrorize parents and children.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
5. We may soon find out what a cornered trump* is capable of doing
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:01 AM
Jun 2018

I'm not saying we shouldn't be fighting to force him into doing the right thing - I just don't think he's capable of doing anything that isn't in his self-interest.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
9. I hope you are right, but then what will he do in revenge?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:05 AM
Jun 2018

I don't think he is at all mentally, morally or emotionally stable. It was one thing when he thought just New York City was watching him. Or the United States. Now he's in the global center spotlight, and in that realm, his support is miniscule.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. Absolutely!
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:01 AM
Jun 2018

And for what's been done to them they should be made legal citizens for what was done to them. Or we're as bad as trump.

Delmette2.0

(4,168 posts)
25. Trump should have to sign a pardon for every parent and child.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:24 AM
Jun 2018

Just to safeguard against anyone who disputes their citizenship.

H2O Man

(73,592 posts)
13. One of the things
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:22 AM
Jun 2018

that DUers should consider supporting (and coordinating efforts with) -- as individuals and as a group here -- are the legal efforts to insure that these innocent children are re-united with their parents. Between 9 and 11 pm/est last night, MSNBC featured information on to legal firms that are working on exactly this. As citizens, we can participate in efforts using both the legislative and judicial branches of government to put Trump in check.

Roy Rolling

(6,928 posts)
17. Good Strategy
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:42 AM
Jun 2018

Step up the pressure for accountability. Trump cannot be trusted and must be confronted with Guard rails at every step to keep him on the right road.

bucolic_frolic

(43,257 posts)
20. No excuses to justify lack of accounting
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:52 AM
Jun 2018

Everything is measured and counted in our digital world. Everything. Inventories, pets, checkouts. Patients in hospitals. They get papers, bracelets, forms, ID numbers, date tags. It is so simple as to be universal. Ubiquitous.

What would it have taken to identify these kids with such a system? We all know the answer: not very much. Operational in a couple of hours. Cookie cutter.

Something else is going on here. Something dark and nefarious. This is highly abnormal in our modern computerized society.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
27. They don't know.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:57 AM
Jun 2018

They don't know what parent and child belong together. They didn't care at all when they separated them.

Did the Nazis track family relationships when they loaded the trains?

They don't know and they don't care, if only we would shut up and obey as well.

KPN

(15,649 posts)
28. There must be accountability. Otherwise we
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:19 AM
Jun 2018

have just and are still allowing and acquiescing to dictatorial rule. This is not who we are, unless we allow these families to remain separated. We must take action to ensure accountability

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
30. Mandatory DNA testing
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:29 AM
Jun 2018

We can help fix this disaster!

We have the technology.

Send dump the bill!

firstwife

(115 posts)
32. Can we as citizens
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:50 AM
Jun 2018

file a class action suit? Would we have standing? IDK. What I do know is I feel helpless, furious, sick inside. I won’t in the law. I pray defenders take this up and start flooding the Federal courts with these cases. Good judges will not let this stand.

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