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I don't believe we are close to the end of the fallout from Trump's child/infant abductions. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 OP
He's not clearly ending them and he's not reuniting families unblock Jun 2018 #1
If Congress doesn't do this duforsure Jun 2018 #2
Not even close H2O Man Jun 2018 #3
Yes, this is going to have long-lasting consequences jberryhill Jun 2018 #4
I would appreciate your opinion DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #8
The whole process is a shambles jberryhill Jun 2018 #10
Will the parents be able to sue the government or does the government have sovereign immunity ? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #11
Oh, they'll certainly be able to sue jberryhill Jun 2018 #12
No flipping way thegoose Jun 2018 #5
He signed a paper mcar Jun 2018 #6
It cannot be over until every child is accounted for. kentuck Jun 2018 #7
Years The Blue Flower Jun 2018 #9

unblock

(52,289 posts)
1. He's not clearly ending them and he's not reuniting families
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:04 AM
Jun 2018

So it's not just the fallout. The actual problem is ongoing.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. If Congress doesn't do this
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:10 AM
Jun 2018

They will become powerless to stop him . They need to align like they did against the russian sanctions and stop his abuse of children at once. Failure to join in to do this should get them targeted for removal from office by the American people. The families and children effected should be given citizenship for the horrors they've been made to go through, and be dammed what trump wants, to correct what's happened, and to regain this country's dignity, and respect, or we will be allowing him to continue destroying everything that's right in this country. We are better than trump. Republicans doing nothing will continue to become history and removed from office.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. Yes, this is going to have long-lasting consequences
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:15 AM
Jun 2018

And likely expensive ones as the litigation goes forward. We're all going to pay for this.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
8. I would appreciate your opinion
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:24 AM
Jun 2018

White House Chief of Staff Kelly and White House Counsel McGahn urged Trump to go the "phone call" route rather than issuing an executive order because the former would cause less upheaval but Trump went the executive order route anyway. Were they right ?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. The whole process is a shambles
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:46 AM
Jun 2018

If the administration wanted to start burning witches at the stake, I'm sure there would be differing opinions on what kind of wood to use.

These children have been taken and scattered to the wind. If there's a "right way" to get toothpaste back into the tube, I don't know what it is.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Oh, they'll certainly be able to sue
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:15 AM
Jun 2018

People sue the government every day. Sovereign immunity only applies in a range of circumstances involving tort claims not relevant here.
 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
5. No flipping way
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:17 AM
Jun 2018

They're still in cages. They haven't even figured out where the missing ones are. Yet Bloatus and his Deplorables will insist that he be worshipped for his benevolence. Barf.

The Blue Flower

(5,444 posts)
9. Years
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:35 AM
Jun 2018

Many of these abducted children will never see their parents again. This will be a lifetime of pain for them. We can NEVER let them be forgotten.

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