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KingBob

(150 posts) Thu Jun 21, 2018, 04:36 PM Jun 2018

Is it kidnapping?

When ICE/CBP/DHS/HHS personnel move children, do they have court orders to be children’s guardians? Do these personnel have court orders or some sort of formal permission or directive (pieces of legal paper - anything) to move these children or are they just kidnapping children?

Let’s present a habeas corpus motion to the Federal courts in Texas to produce the children immediately.

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Is it kidnapping? (Original Post) KingBob Jun 2018 OP

they don't even have "receipts" for these children Brainstormy Jun 2018 #1

Easier to sell lame54 Jun 2018 #2

Far as I am concerned they are slaves and the thing they are enslaved to do.... Thomas Hurt Jun 2018 #3

They don't, bus I suspect HHS does... brooklynite Jun 2018 #4

There are procedures that must be followed. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #5

Brainstormy

(2,381 posts)

1. they don't even have "receipts" for these children

Reply to KingBob (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2018, 04:47 PM

Jun 2018

no paperwork. They don't even know their names. No record connecting them to their parents. Which is why the reunion with their families will be very difficult to pull off.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/judge-explodes-missing-children-take-kids-get-nothing-not-even-slip-paper/

lame54

(35,317 posts)

2. Easier to sell

Reply to Brainstormy (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 21, 2018, 04:48 PM

Jun 2018

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)

3. Far as I am concerned they are slaves and the thing they are enslaved to do....

Reply to KingBob (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2018, 04:51 PM

Jun 2018

is to be warehoused for the profit of gov't contractors.

brooklynite

(94,710 posts)

4. They don't, bus I suspect HHS does...

Reply to KingBob (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2018, 04:53 PM

Jun 2018

If it was a simple as pointing this out, I suspect ACLU would have already filed something.

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

5. There are procedures that must be followed.

Reply to KingBob (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2018, 04:54 PM

Jun 2018

It's questionable if Trump is following them. The immigration law specifically grants the government the right to separate children from their parents and even transport them. I think boarder patrol is allowed to separate them but DHHS has to come in at that point, if not already involved.

Separation is a must in any immigration package though the regulation needs to be explicitly spelled out further. It's original intent was to protect children.

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