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Want to see why the wall will never, ever be built? Watch this USA Today video. (Original Post) The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 OP
That was definitely an eye-opener. Miles Archer Jun 2018 #1
"Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man" - Gen. George Patton ThoughtCriminal Jun 2018 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #3
I live in Cochise County, Az., quite near the border, maybe 10-12 miles as the crow flies. panader0 Jun 2018 #4
I reminded my deplorable co worker yesterday. I leaned in over his desk and said you know Trek4Truth Jun 2018 #7
The best part was where the fence (not a wall) extends a little distance into the Pacific Ocean. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #5
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2018 #6

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
1. That was definitely an eye-opener.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:48 PM
Jun 2018

I never knew the specifics, I just thought it was impossible. This video confirms it.

The "big, beautiful wall" promise is just like his "birther" movement. He telegraphs his punches. He's said all along that if he tells a lie and acts like he believes it and keeps repeating it, people will believe it. He knew what he needed to tap into, and he did. Thanks for posting this.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
2. "Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man" - Gen. George Patton
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:36 PM
Jun 2018

"If mountain ranges and oceans can be overcome, anything made by man can be"

Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #2)

panader0

(25,816 posts)
4. I live in Cochise County, Az., quite near the border, maybe 10-12 miles as the crow flies.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:43 PM
Jun 2018

I've been here since '78. There used to be quite a few crossers, but not any more.
I've never had a problem with crossers. In fact, I've given some work, water, food, clothing and rides.
Once I walked out early (I have 40 acres), and saw a line of crossers, moving in silence in the shadows.
A young woman with a baby. They looked at me and saw that I was not a menace.
The video is excellent, but it doesn't address the environmental effects, like the leopards that
cross as well. Or the eminent domain issues, which would tie things up for years in court.
The wall will never happen. There are a few miles of fence in nearby Naco, but all they need
to do is go a little further and walk around it.
I love our Mexican neighbors. My ex (the kids' mom) is half Hispanic, making my kids a quarter.
Edit to add: Would Spanky build the wall in the middle of the river? Or just cede the Rio Grande
to Mexico? Ranchers and farmers won't go for that.

 

Trek4Truth

(515 posts)
7. I reminded my deplorable co worker yesterday. I leaned in over his desk and said you know
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:51 PM
Jun 2018

this dumb wall would be tied up in court for decades, most of it is private property. This guy never voted before (33yrs old) ...the wall drove him out to the polls.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,807 posts)
5. The best part was where the fence (not a wall) extends a little distance into the Pacific Ocean.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:45 PM
Jun 2018

But there are these things called "boats"....

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