some cowardly monster with a gun thought he knew everything.

And more innocents have died.

I know several of them to my great misfortune..

Sikhs and anything else not christian to be SATAN WORSHIPPERS. They also consider them to not actually be practicing a "real" religion, so the First Amendment doesn't apply to them.

We need to be careful about blaming fundie Christians for this until we get more information. This reminds me of the Colorado shooting when at first it was reported that a Tea Party member did it, but we found out later that the shooter had nothing to do with the Tea Party.

But we still need more information before jumping to any conclusions. Was it a hate crime or was the gunman mentally ill or was there some other motivation?

they are mooslim terraists.

of a Sikh after 9-11. Dumb fucks.

Some toothless tea billy hopped up on fox snooze doesn't know the difference between a peaceful Sikh or Muslim and a fundamentalist extremist. To them they're all terr'ists.Of course, we seem to have our very own homegrown terrorists, and I'm guessing this dude was such.Some people only have to look in the mirror to find the true "terr'ists."

therefore a Muslim, and therefore a terrorist, according to wingnut logic.

But not everyone who wears a turban is an Arab, and not every Arab is Muslim, and not every Muslim is a terrorist.

It doesn't matter to them if Sikhs are peaceful, they don't care and won't bother to understand.

I'm making an assumption about the motivation....but no one can deny that this country's politics and media breed intorance and that there's a portion of our society who are narrow-minded, so-called christians, afraid of anything different than them and what they believe.

The problem with Christianity is with those who believe that the Mosaic Law applies to anyone except to Jews. It applied to Jesus, the observant Jew, until his death. It can never apply to Gentiles by the very nature of the covenant.

The Roman Church and later Calvin should get much of the "credit" for making this hateful mess.

(My humble opinion as a New Covenant follower of the teachings of Jesus.)

They don't know how to read it. It addles their wits. Somebody reported me for being an anti-Christian bigot for saying this the other day. As if all properly observant Christians want to murder non-Christians.

I know the NT seems bland and boring, but the blood-soaked OT is not for you, Oh followers of the Turn-the-other-cheek guy.

like them.

Ive known quite a few fundies and they were all as peaceful as napping cats.

About the only annoyance was their praying for my heathen soul.

On edit: I'm pretty sure you didnt mean every single fundie Christian, but yeah, they are particularly persistent in their confidence that every other living being on the planet is going to burn in hell for all eternity. But I find most religions hold this belief.

This is America. We theoretically have aright to worship how we choose and what we choose. Even if this would have been an attack against any other religion, it would have been just as wrong.

Which is what makes Bachmann, and her cohorts, singling out the Muslims all the more reprehensible.

... understand little and care less.

-- Mal

Five more months to go, and we've already matched the record for most mass shootings in a year, I believe.

Add another one after Holmes to this list by Mother Jones:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map?page=2

And here is a list that I found on with a Yahoo search that goes only from 1999 to January 2011:

April 1999 - two teenage schoolboys shot and killed 12 schoolmates and a teacher at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, before killing themselves.

July 1999 - a stock exchange trader in Atlanta, Georgia, killed 12 people including his wife and two children before taking his own life.

September 1999 - a gunman opened fire at a prayer service in Fort Worth, Texas, killing six people before committing suicide.

October 2002 - a series of sniper-style shootings occurred in Washington DC, leaving 10 dead.

August 2003 - in Chicago, a laid-off worker shot and killed six of his former workmates.

November 2004 - in Birchwood, Wisconsin, a hunter killed six other hunters and wounded two others after an argument with them.

March 2005 - a man opened fire at a church service in Brookfield, Wisconsin, killing seven people.

October 2006 - a truck driver killed five schoolgirls and seriously wounded six others in a school in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania before taking his own life.

April 2007 - student Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people and wounded 15 others at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia, before shooting himself, making it the deadliest mass shooting in the United States after 2000.

August 2007 - Three Delaware State University students were shot and killed in “execution style” by a 28-year-old and two 15-year-old boys. A fourth student was shot and stabbed.

December 2007 - a 20-year-old man killed nine people and injured five others in a shopping center in Omaha, Nebraska.

December 2007 - a woman and her boyfriend shot dead six members of her family on Christmas Eve in Carnation, Washington.

February 2008 - a shooter who is still at large tied up and shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago, leaving five of them dead and the remaining one injured.

February 2008 - a man opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students and wounding 16 others before laying down his weapon and surrendering.

December 2008 - a man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.

March 2009 - a 28-year-old laid-off worker opened fire while driving a car through several towns in Alabama, killing 10 people.

March 2009 - a heavily armed gunman shot dead eight people, many of them elderly and sick people, in a private-owned nursing home in North Carolina.

March 2009 - six people were shot dead in a high-grade apartment building in Santa Clara, California.

April 2009 - a man shot dead 13 people at a civic center in Binghamton, New York.

July 2009 - Six people, including one student, were shot in a drive-by shooting at a community rally on the campus of Texas Southern University, Houston.

November 2009 - U.S. army psychologist Major Nidal Hasan opened fire at a military base in Fort Hood, Texas, leaving 13 dead and 42 others wounded.

February 2010 – A professor opened fire 50 minutes into at a Biological Sciences Department faculty meeting at the University of Alabama, killing three colleagues and wounding three others.

January 2011 - a gunman opened fire at a public gathering outside a grocery in Tucson, Arizona, killing six people including a 9-year-old girl and wounding at least 12 others. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was severely injured with a gunshot to the head.

Sikhism has its extremists also (look up the Air India bombing where 329 people were killed - 280 of those were Canadians). All religions have peace, love etc as their mainstay. Unfortunately most religions also have extremist whackos who twist and manipulate those main tenants for their own gain.

However, in this case I'd bet the farm that this was a case of mistaken identity. I have a few Sikh friends and many in the community have been targets (one had a relative attacked who ended up in the hospital) since 9/11 by right wing morans who are too stupid to tell the difference between Sikh and Muslim.

Agreed that the violence must stop. Everywhere.

who was killed by 2 of her own Sikh bodyguards, that is not to say all Sikhs are terrorists either every religion including Islam has extremists, the problem comes when they are made out to be the average

It's a sad commentary on our society.

that the killer does not understand the Sikh religion. Very possible he didnt even know they were Sikhs.

I wonder if they are setting up a separate donation fund.

to go in and start killing them. and i'm pretty sure whoever did it doesn't give a shit about peace love etc.

I've been at work all day, so I just got home and was able to check the news. Unbelievable. Sikhs are peaceful, gentle people. I can't BELIEVE someone went in there and attacked them. We have a Sikh temple (? I'm sorry, I don't know the proper word for the place of worship, I apologize) right down the street from me. I fear for their safety now.

Therefore Sikhs are terrorists. See the definition of the word "raghead" for why this must be true in gun nut right wing looney land.

"Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims" - rightwing logic unassailable by any mere falsifying facts.

have no desire to understand anybody or anything but their own twisted agenda.