him look at me too. AAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!

If she's going to be on the cover of TIME, I hope people are looking into it.

In the stark photo illustration, the towering figure of Trump looms over a sobbing child, who is the subject of a now-iconic photograph taken recently by Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer John Moore.

"Welcome to America," the illustration reads.

Moore told the magazine he had to "stop and take deep breaths" after capturing the image of a two-year-old Honduran girl crying for her mother, who was being detained in McAllen, Texas.

And very effective. I just hope she is reunited with her mother. I can't even express my anger and disgust with Trump, his administration, the GOP and the MAGA's. I am wishing I believed in hell.

Yes, it's absolutely chilling and I hope to God that little one is in safe hands-- preferably her mother's

I ran out of words a long time ago-- other than grotesque, nothing else even comes close to describing him

The Time picture wouldn't happen in real life, because Trump wouldn't go anywhere near where the kid is. Nor would he look her in the eyes.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5869829/Father-two-year-old-face-child-separation-crisis-speaks-out.html …

Now I wonder whether DU supports what was essentially a familial kidnapping on top of it?

Seriously, Piers Morgan is a Trump humper.

I'm talking about a mother stealing a child and leaving the country, not as a refugee. If the father is lying, then it's obviously a different story.

Many people trying to cross the border are trying to escape abuse. I have found The Daily Mail to be a right wing propaganda rag, so I prefer to look for credible sources to validate the story before commenting further.

"If the father is lying, then it's obviously a different story."

Be gone with you!

Did you type that with a straight face?

A. The father is telling the truth. Then, this is a kidnapping and DU should see it no different from Gonzalez.

B. The father is lying. Then as I said, my opinion is irrelevant.

That's not what we call hypotheticals.

They shouldn't have any trouble locating him. Guess we'll see.

He's a manipulative slag and this whole jacket thing has his tiny hands all over it.

Buzzfeed, etc.

You said: "Now I wonder whether DU supports what was essentially a familial kidnapping on top of it?"

On top of what? And where did you pull that out of about DU?

Screaming about all of this, all of a sudden, when others have been working against it for many years and through various regimes.

And since this kid has been made a public figure, I do wonder how many DUers would (If the father's story is true) overlook the fact that this child was essentially kidnapped.

Would you not have any issue with that?

Also, many DUers have been against immigration policies of past Presidents. I've emailed and called my representatives, and yes, even President Obama about our nation's shitty immigration policies. You're being disingenuous here, and frankly are coming across as a bit of a concern troll.

To your credit

But you can stow that "Concern troll" shit. I'm not being the slightest bit disingenuous. If you really were very involved before, then you would be just as annoyed as I am at all this sudden "Clarity," which is actually the disingenuous side of this discussion.

Imagine how different things could be today, if all this anger had happened back when it wasn't too late?

Almost like you'd been here a decade or so. Amazing.

But you would be wrong anyway.

I am amused by how weak your defense of trump is. Thank you for the amusrment

Don't be surprised if we wonder why you seem so "concerned".

Also, here's the quote:

So he personally has had no contact with his wife or child. He also later said "family members" told him they weren't separated. But we don't know that, even, let alone that this was a "parental kidnapping".

For a person with an apparently kidnapped child, too, the article says he "doesn't have resentment" about it, and isn't demanding their return. He said he hoped they were either granted asylum or reunited with him -- in other words, he doesn't seem like he's fighting her right to request asylum for the child.

In the Gonzalez case, the father was demanding his son back against relatives trying to claim asylum for him. Plus, the other parent was dead. At that point, even if he'd seen his wife's decision to leave with the child born after their divorce (where the mother generally, and did in that case, retain legal custody) as "informal custody arrangements" he wouldn't fight if they made it, as it seems this father is with his youngest (vs demanding his child be returned), or not, it wasn't about parental kidnapping.

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Would YOU put it past the Trump administration to lie to Honduran officials? Habeus corpus has not been satisfied yet to prove they weren't separated, he's not heard his wife's voice let alone seen her.

You're jumping to Elian, parental kidnapping, and accusing DUers as a group of being disingenuous, from a single-source story Republicans and the President are pushing everywhere they can to call this entire crisis "fake news".

I'm not saying you're wrong to feel the way you do if you personally have strong feelings on this issue from personal or family experiences with the INS/USCIS/ICE/GesTaPo. They make it a total bitch to get here legally and have since my own experience with them 18 years ago. Whether it's racism or simply xenophobia, the people working there treat legal immigrants like shit and have even before my own experience.

But you also have to have awareness of how you're arguing a very popular RW talking point right now, particularly blaming the prior administration. When our immigration policies have sucked since before I was born.

Ignore this article. Trump is the topic of this thread but someone wants to protect trump by changing the topic

Family law attorneys see this crap on a routine basis. I have heard stories from the attorneys in my firm that are very upsetting. Heck my limited experience in this area of the law as a baby attorney still upsets me. I had to listen to three daughters described being raped by their father who trying to taken posseion of his youngest child. The youngest was 12 and our client was the orphange facility taking care of her. I was shadowing the firm's family law partner who was 9 months pregnant. Family law is not an area of the law for people who do not like these situations. Changing topics to defend trump is amusing but not effective.

What is not routine is our country torturing children as a matter of policy. What trump is doing is not routine nor acceptable. Our nation is torturing children as part of a planned stunt for trump to play to his racist base. I like this cover

This little girl's photo is being used to sell magazines.

So she's like a model.

And immigrants who are models get to come to America and are allowed to become citizens, right?

Isn't that how it works?

It seems like there is a famous case of an immigrant being allowed to become a U.S. citizen because she was a model.

Now who was that?

Any idea who that could have been?

I honestly have no idea.

And TIME is a news magazine, not like Vogue. I have no idea what you are trying to say or ask.