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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is the perfect solution on the Southern border, in your eyes?
And for the immigrants already here.
Do we let everyone in?
How do we track them?
How do they become citizens?
Do we let everyone in? No, we should bar criminals.
How do we track them? Why do we want to?
How do they become citizens? Live here.
with an added shudder on the "track them."
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)All available info on internet.....as for becoming citizens...process already in place....
teach1st
(5,935 posts)Immigration laws can ease or they can complicate immigration issues, but they won't solve them. We need to address the core issues, which currently include the drug and gang violence in Central American countries. One possible step would be to set up refugee camps in affected countries, camps at which those who need asylum can be processed for eligibility. That way, refugees are processed without affecting our border operations. (This was attempted briefly by the Obama administration, but there were not enough applications for asylum and it was closed. I think it can be done better, to ensure Central Americans feel comfortable applying and waiting for processing in safe, non-punitive areas.) Of course, this means working closely with the United Nations in a major, complicated initiative, and it's obvious that the Trump administration is not willing or is unable to do that. Trump idiocracy aside, and looking at a more permanent solution, I think we need to look at drug policies that take the profit out of the illegal drug trade that fuels the cartels and gangs. In the longer run, we need to address international economic injustices.
To briefly answer your questions, I'd say that we need to make sure we're obliging asylum requests. I'm for amnesty for those who have made it here and who aren't engaged in criminal activities. We can't let everybody in, but we can be more compassionate. I have no idea about tracking.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)RandySF
(58,899 posts)Devote resources for asylum centers and case workers. Streamline the judicial process. Set clear, humane guidelines as to what qualifies. Work with the Mexican government to additional centers with American officials on the other side to ease the burden on American border cities.
As for people here illegally, and I am going to get flame for suggesting this, take a look at George W Bush's Pathway to Citizenship. Finally, automatic deportation for those who who are undocumented and commit violent crimes, without trial if there were enough witnesses.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)First, figure out WHY they came to the border, was the reason economic, or to avoid terror at home. The ones fleeing terror should be put on an asylum track. The ones there for economic reasons should be background checked as best possible and the ones that don't have criminal histories should be given work visas and we should hold job fairs that connect them to pre-screened potential employers, AND before being let in for jobs, they agree to be tracked and the employers hiring them agree to assist that process. The work visas would allow them to come and go between the US and their home country as long as they maintain being tracked and committ no crimes while here. During the screening process, we should work with Mexico to provide adequate housing for them.
Long term, we should work with their home countries and Canada to form an Americas economic union along the lines of the EU, with soecific Human right's, economic rights, taxation, worker rights that each participating country must work to meet. I believe an economic union of the Americas that addresses specific concerns is in our best long term interests, as well as the best long term interests of the Americas.
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)make it worse. It will have to wait...not with this shaministration.
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)economy which smart people who are not friggin biased or political should figure out. Whilst here on various permits you can apply for citizenship, which is a long drawn out process. There is a 7 year probation period before you can apply. You must pay taxes.
End the lottery system for now (compromise) . There is family reunification and folks who are at the border.
Merit based immigration is stupid, those are the people who are actually competing for skilled high paying American jobs. Merit included immigration is fine.
I mean problem solved.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Perhaps then people won't have to leave their homes.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Those countries need to make human rights and economic reforms. Often in those countries, indigenous people are treated like shit, we can't be a party to allowing that to continue while we shovel money to those countries.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Eradicate the gangs help provide security, stimulate growth, etc...
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Their bad treatment is a major problem throughout Latin America and one major reason for economic stagnation there, IMO.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)If preventing people from crossing the line is that damn important to them, they can patrol the border themselves and protect them from their fictitious problem themselves.
Leith
(7,809 posts)A far second option is to improve what we did during the WW II bracero program: bring in workers legally so that they can get rights, pair pay, and good conditions that they can't get while being invisible and threatened by their illegal employers.
snort
(2,334 posts)welcoming the tired, poor and huddled with open arms.
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)asylum, we trade out one egomaniac billionaire family.