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(19,459 posts)I don't know anything about the rest of them, but that one is a benzodiazepine.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)I suffer anxiety attacks and I have them to help settle me. But in combination with those other drugs....no wonder these children seem comatose. Hell, if I take a Cloonazepam with any one other drug....say...ibuprofen, you can count on me sleeping for several hours!
My anger levels are so extreme right now. THESE ARE CHILDREN, who have absolutely no business being given these drugs. I. JUST. CANT!!!!!
What has our country become? I weep for our lost sense of morality and sensibility. I weep for our lost democracy. I weep that one of our two parties is complicit in destroying our country in order to line their own pockets. People like the Kocks and Mercers must be so proud of their serfs.
There are so many good people, even wealthy people, who side with us. Why is it that those corrupt, greedy families get to run over the majority who are decent and honorable?
We are too nice. Lets fight. My granddaughter deserves better than what this administration wants to leave her.
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)Docreed2003
(16,863 posts)That "cocktail" is enough to incapacitate a horse!
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)I've worked psych a long time - Good reason why some of those drugs are given - but not all at the same time.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)Anyone involved in this should get a good civil defense lawyer, because the civil suits may start appearing soon
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)think4yourself
(837 posts)I have been prescribed most of these. I can only imagine them combined. Whoever is administering this cocktail needs to be removed from my country posthaste.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Volaris
(10,272 posts)About 20 hours a day asleep.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Volaris
(10,272 posts)Imagine what it does to a child that's already 'normal'.
Or worse, the people administering these drugs KNOW the trauma and physic stress these children are experiencing, and would rather mitigate the damage with injections than be bothered to actually speak the fuck up and do something to stop it.
Yeah
I want BLOOD for this.
I want heads on Spikes.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)It astounds me how some think this is something new that's just started happening.
What's most disturbing is that once people here figure out the timeframes to a story that generates such outrage, it gets dropped like a hot potato. Shameful.
RandySF
(58,911 posts)Obama officials recently shared horror stories of an out-of-control ICE just the other day.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Volaris
(10,272 posts)Who the fuck approved this in absentia of parental consent?
I know what those drugs do. If you don't NEED THEM for your own psychic stability and brain-chemistry balance, they render you utterly self-powerless.
And appx 30% of our 'fellow citizens' couldn't give a shit less. Consider THAT.
No i wanna know who the FUCK approved this.
And NOW i want BLOOD. Prison will suffice (if it must).
lame54
(35,294 posts)Trump can't pronounce
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)On dosing, frequency, etc. Totally inappropriate. And divalproex requires regular fasting blood tests.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)After the first couple I started feeling sick. The only way I could finish this was to pretend it's just research.
My opinion, as a nurse of many years is this is absolutely awful. If they are giving even a couple of these, to any child, that child needs to be very closely monitored for potentially severe side effects. Giving all of these to anyone is malpractice. Abusive. Appalling. Absolutely unnecessary, unacceptable, unsafe.
I've not seen such a list given to anyone since doing a round in a state mental institution in early 70s.
NAMI is National Alliance on Mental Illness. WebMD is more friendly and understandable for lay people.
This is heartbreakingly evil.
Latuda
https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Treatment/Mental-Health-Medications/Lurasidone-(Latuda)
Side effects : Suicidal Thoughts Or Actions In Children And Adults
Long term side effects include tardive dyskinesia.
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-155134/latuda-oral/details
Geodon
https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Treatment/Mental-Health-Medications/Types-of-Medication/Ziprasidone-(Geodon)
All FDA black box warnings are at the end of this fact sheet. Please review before taking this medication.
What Is Ziprasidone And What Does It Treat?
Ziprasidone is a medication that works in the brain to treat schizophrenia. It is also known as a second generation antipsychotic (SGA) or atypical antipsychotic. Ziprasidone rebalances dopamine and serotonin to improve thinking, mood, and behavior....
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-20575/geodon-oral/details
Olanzapine
https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Treatment/Mental-Health-Medications/Types-of-Medication/Olanzapine-(Zyprexa)
All FDA black box warnings are at the end of this fact sheet. Please review before taking this medication.
What Is Olanzapine And What Does It Treat?
Olanzapine is a medication that works in the brain to treat schizophrenia. It is also known as a second generation antipsychotic (SGA) or atypical antipsychotic. Olanzapine rebalances dopamine and serotonin to improve thinking, mood, and behavior...
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/search?type=drugs&query=olanzapine
Benztropine (cogentin)
Nothing from NAMI
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-8619/benztropine-oral/details
Benztropine is used to treat symptoms of Parkinson's disease or involuntary movements due to the side effects of certain psychiatric drugs (antipsychotics such as chlorpromazine/haloperidol). Benztropine belongs to a class of medication called anticholinergics that work by blocking a certain natural substance (acetylcholine). This helps decrease muscle stiffness, sweating, and the production of saliva, and helps improve walking ability in people with Parkinson's disease.
Anticholinergics can stop severe muscle spasms of the back, neck, and eyes that are sometimes caused by psychiatric drugs. It can also decrease other side effects such as muscle stiffness/rigidity (extrapyramidal signs-EPS). It is not helpful in treating movement problems caused by tardive dyskinesia and may worsen them. Benztropine should not be used in children younger than 3 years....
Clonazepam
https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Treatment/Mental-Health-Medications/Types-of-Medication/Clonazepam-(Klonopin)
All FDA black box warnings are at the end of this fact sheet. Please review before taking this medication.
What Is Clonazepam And What Does It Treat?
Clonazepam is a benzodiazepine. It is approved for the treatment of panic disorder (with or without agoraphobia), as well as certain types of seizure disorders. However, benzodiazepines are also commonly used to treat difficulty sleeping and alcohol withdrawal.
Panic Disorder occurs when a person experiences unexpected and repeated episodes of intense fear. These episodes have physical symptoms including chest pain, shortness of breath, heart palpitations, sweating, dizziness, and nausea. Fear of future episodes is also part of panic disorder.....
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/search?type=drugs&query=clonazepam
Divalproex (depakote)
https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Treatment/Mental-Health-Medications/Types-of-Medication/Valproate-(Depakote)
All FDA black box warnings are at the end of this fact sheet. Please review before taking this medication.
What Is Valproate And What Does It Treat?
Valproate is a mood stabilizer medication that works in the brain. It is approved for the treatment of bipolar disorder (also known as manic depression),seizures (epilepsy), and migraine headaches. Bipolar disorder involves episodes of depression and/or mania.
Symptoms of depression include:
Depressed mood, feeling sad, empty, or tearful
Feeling worthless, guilty, hopeless, or helpless
Loss of interest or pleasure in normal activities
Sleep and eat more or less than usual (for most people it is less)
Low energy, trouble concentrating, or thoughts of death (suicidal thinking)
Psychomotor agitation ('nervous energy')
Psychomotor retardation (feeling like you are moving in slow motion)
Symptoms of mania include:....
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-6000-8019/divalproex-oral/divalproex-sodium-enteric-coated-tablet-oral/details
Duloxetine (cymbalta)
https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Treatment/Mental-Health-Medications/Types-of-Medication/Duloxetine-(Cymbalta, well know for vicious side effects when stopped )
All FDA black box warnings are at the end of this fact sheet. Please review before taking this medication.
What Is Duloxetine And What Does It Treat?
Duloxetine is an antidepressant medication that works in the brain. It is approved for the treatment of major depressive disorder (MDD), generalized anxiety disorder (GAD), diabetic peripheral neuropathic pain (DPNP), fibromyalgia, and chronic musculoskeletal pain...
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-6000-8019/divalproex-oral/divalproex-sodium-enteric-coated-tablet-oral/details
Guafacine
https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Treatment/Mental-Health-Medications/Types-of-Medication/Guanfacine-(Intuniv)
All FDA warnings are at the end of this fact sheet. Please consult them before taking this medication.
What Is Guanfacine And What Does It Treat?
Guanfacine is a prescription medication that is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in individuals between 6 and 17 years of age. Guanfacine is also used to treat blood pressure in both children and adults.
Symptoms of ADHD interfere with an individuals ability to function at school or work or in social settings and include:
Inattention (making careless mistakes, losing things necessary for tasks)
Hyperactivity (inability to sit still)
Impulsivity (interrupting or intruding on others)
A person may have severe inattention without hyperactivity or impulsivity.
Guanfacine is used in addition to non-medication treatments to manage ADHD symptoms....
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/search?type=drugs&query=guanfacine
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)It would be awesome! He'd sleep and sleep, start to tweet and give up, sleep some more.
If he can do it to the kids, surely the secret service can do it to him.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)- Sorry - Sounds like I'm splitting hairs - just an important distinction for me since I'm a psych nurse and I'm trying to figure out how they would accomplish this. - You just would not be able to inject certain things. Sorry to be technical -
Having said that - the article did say the child was prescribed 10 medications. Which is still puzzling because Latuda Geodon and Olanzapine would be doing the same thing and I am assuming they would also be using the Divalproex as a mood stabilizer as well which could be accomplished with any of the other 3 already mentioned so it appears that this child was being over medicated. Benztropin is for counteracting side effects so not unusual in psych.
All drugs potentially have nasty side effects- Therefore -they should be prescribed only when necessary by experienced clinicians.
That does not appear to be the case here.
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)Charges need to be brought on those doing the drugging and those responsible for this policy. Today.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)I don't doubt that something like this could be done, but
Did a whistleblower release it? I can not imagine info like this was officially released.
Drug test on the child?
Twitter can be a source of facts or conspiracy theories. Before I believe something this nefarious, I need proof.