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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:36 AM Jun 2018

Father says little Honduran girl on Time cover was not taken from mother

TEGUCIGALPA (Reuters) - The Honduran toddler pictured sobbing in a pink jacket before U.S. President Donald Trump on an upcoming cover of Time magazine was not separated from her mother at the U.S. border, according to a man who says he is the girl’s father.

The powerful original photograph, taken at the scene of a border detention by Getty Images photographer John Moore, became one of the iconic images in the flurry of media coverage about the separation of families by the Trump administration.

Dozens of newspapers and magazines around the globe published the picture, swelling the tide of outrage that pushed Trump to back down Wednesday and say families would no longer be separated.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUSKBN1JI07W
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Father says little Honduran girl on Time cover was not taken from mother (Original Post) oberliner Jun 2018 OP
It doesnt matter the child is a symbol of all the children taken Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #1
The image is quite powerful oberliner Jun 2018 #3
"Stop them damn pictures" gratuitous Jun 2018 #22
cons are spreading this story all over this morning RandiFan1290 Jun 2018 #10
Theyre clutching at straws Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #23
Agree 100% SharonClark Jun 2018 #41
I don't think that matters. The photo shows the horror of the treatment of children. Vinca Jun 2018 #2
Where is she then? where is her Mother. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #4
Well, the story goes.... Rorey Jun 2018 #12
NO, but where are they...if he knows they were not separated than where are they? I think it is a Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #20
story is right here bdamomma Jun 2018 #27
There are no pictures...they were told this by a man who claims to the Dad...sorry show me Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #43
I hope they had permission mainstreetonce Jun 2018 #5
The original photo was from a new article, right? ExciteBike66 Jun 2018 #8
Could be, but it doesn't mean the picture doesn't make a powerful statement. chelsea0011 Jun 2018 #6
This. Rorey Jun 2018 #13
I'm confused leftynyc Jun 2018 #7
I think when I first saw the picture mainstreetonce Jun 2018 #9
Ah - thanks leftynyc Jun 2018 #18
The photo is touching, and it represents the children who WERE separated Rorey Jun 2018 #11
Agreed on all counts oberliner Jun 2018 #17
Well, no one ever said she was, that I ever saw. Demit Jun 2018 #14
Time Magazine printed a correction oberliner Jun 2018 #42
Nice spin, but the photo is emblematic of the over inhumane treatment if immigrants Tarc Jun 2018 #15
What's the spin? oberliner Jun 2018 #16
Every day without fail. Kingofalldems Jun 2018 #19
SMFH DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #21
The truth is important to me oberliner Jun 2018 #38
What truth would that be? There is not a bit of proof that what a Trumper spokesman said is true... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #44
+1... SidDithers Jun 2018 #39
Does the article in Time say she was. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #24
They certainly made the implication. pintobean Jun 2018 #25
Lol! Carry that water! Squinch Jun 2018 #26
++++++ Crunchy Frog Jun 2018 #29
This is a Reuters article oberliner Jun 2018 #36
And did Reuters see the girl and her mom after reunification... no they didn't. A trumper said it Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #45
Who cares, it's the symbolic representation of the policy...good lord beachbum bob Jun 2018 #28
How do we know this is the father? malaise Jun 2018 #30
This story stinks. ICE have access to the woman, and we don't know who has spoken to that father. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #31
Did anyone ever claim she was??? Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #32
Evidently Time did, B2G Jun 2018 #33
Is this fake too? Kingofalldems Jun 2018 #34
Thank god they've been reunited. nt B2G Jun 2018 #35
The Reuters article does not assert that anything is fake oberliner Jun 2018 #37
The Reuters article is worthless without proof that they are together...and there is none...only the Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #46
She's a stand-in for the thousands they *really* don't want us to see. n/t Orsino Jun 2018 #40

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. "Stop them damn pictures"
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:35 AM
Jun 2018

Boss Tweed reportedly said that about Thomas Nast's caricatures.Tweed knew then as Fox knows now that powerful pictures leave a bigger impression than the most closely reasoned argument. That distraught little girl is the embodiment of a heinously cruel policy, and there's no arguing against it. That's why Trump partisans must negate it in any way possible. That's why the administration has closed off access to the kidnapped children, and has a blanket ban on all photography.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
2. I don't think that matters. The photo shows the horror of the treatment of children.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:38 AM
Jun 2018

If the little girl is still with her mother that makes me very happy.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
12. Well, the story goes....
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:05 AM
Jun 2018

The supposed father said that the mother and daughter are not separated. I'm not sure I'm buying this supposed father's story, but even if it's true, it doesn't erase the horror for all of the separated families.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
20. NO, but where are they...if he knows they were not separated than where are they? I think it is a
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:27 AM
Jun 2018

bullshit lie from Trumpy...the pic on Times I think is brutal for him.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
43. There are no pictures...they were told this by a man who claims to the Dad...sorry show me
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:47 PM
Jun 2018

a picture...Trump is a God Damned liar. And a ' spokesman' said this...you going to believe anything fucking Trumpers say? Show me a picture.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
6. Could be, but it doesn't mean the picture doesn't make a powerful statement.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:41 AM
Jun 2018

And trump never met the little girl. So, what's the point. The image conveys a particular point of view.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
13. This.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:07 AM
Jun 2018

And not just a point of view. It conveys that there are atrocities committed at the hands of our government.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
7. I'm confused
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:43 AM
Jun 2018

WHERE IS THE MOTHER?:

From the article posted?
Valera said the little girl and her mother, Sandra Sanchez, have been detained together in the Texas border town of McAllen, where Sanchez has applied for asylum, and they were not separated after being detained near the border.

She obviously was NOT with her mother when that picture was taken.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
18. Ah - thanks
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:17 AM
Jun 2018

I really didn't know anything about her specific case and looked at her as a "representative" of all the kids getting traumatized. I have no reason to change that line of thinking.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
11. The photo is touching, and it represents the children who WERE separated
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:01 AM
Jun 2018

I know the followers of -45 are quick to jump on this, but when they can say that this is the case with ALL of the other children, then they don't have anything to talk about. If the supposed father is telling the truth, then I'm relieved for that little girl. His story won't make me sleep any better at night.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
14. Well, no one ever said she was, that I ever saw.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:07 AM
Jun 2018

The caption to the photo just said that her mother was being searched.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. Time Magazine printed a correction
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jun 2018

Here it is:

Correction: The original version of this story misstated what happened to the girl in the photo after she taken from the scene. The girl was not carried away screaming by U.S. Border Patrol agents; her mother picked her up and the two were taken away together.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
15. Nice spin, but the photo is emblematic of the over inhumane treatment if immigrants
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:14 AM
Jun 2018

Separation is one aspect of the whole spectrum of mistreatment.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
44. What truth would that be? There is not a bit of proof that what a Trumper spokesman said is true...
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:50 PM
Jun 2018

so find a picture. If they were together, Trump would already have posted it.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. Does the article in Time say she was.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:35 AM
Jun 2018

I don't see where it states that on the cover.

It says "Welcome to America" and has the image of Trump looking at a little girl who was crying as her mother was being searched.

Powerful image.

Additionally, where are they. The father seems to be in the know and clueless, at the same time.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
25. They certainly made the implication.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 08:46 AM
Jun 2018
Due to the power of the image, which appeared as critics from across the political spectrum attacked President Trump’s now-reversed policy of separating children from parents who are being detained for illegally entering the United States, TIME’s editors selected Moore’s photograph to create a photo illustration, including Trump, to make the July 2, 2018, cover of the magazine.


http://time.com/5317522/donald-trump-border-cover/?utm_campaign=time&xid=time_socialflow_twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
45. And did Reuters see the girl and her mom after reunification... no they didn't. A trumper said it
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:50 PM
Jun 2018

had happened.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
30. How do we know this is the father?
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 09:04 AM
Jun 2018

How do I know this isn't more RW propaganda from another banana republic government owned by a US corporation.
Further I don't give a shit - if they'd let media in, we'd have even worse photos.

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
32. Did anyone ever claim she was???
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 09:22 AM
Jun 2018

Perhaps a question might be asked why was this child allowed to stay with her mother when others were torn from their parent(s). Were Trump's policy orders arbitrarily enforced? What determined the separations? Were more boys separated because the WH thought cages boys provided better scary photo-ops?

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
33. Evidently Time did,
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 09:30 AM
Jun 2018

but they corrected after initial reporting.

"A Time story recounting the photographer’s experience initially stated the girl was carried away screaming by border agents, and later corrected the article to say that the two were taken away together."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/22/the-crying-honduran-girl-on-the-cover-of-time-was-not-separated-from-her-mother-father-says/?utm_term=.79e3d5c1af8a

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
46. The Reuters article is worthless without proof that they are together...and there is none...only the
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:52 PM
Jun 2018

words of proven Trump liars.

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