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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:41 AM Jun 2018

Nikki Haley: 'It is patently ridiculous for the United Nations to examine poverty in America'

By Jeff Stein June 21 at 2:11 PM

A United Nations report condemning entrenched poverty in the United States is a “misleading and politically motivated” document about “the wealthiest and freest country in the world,” according to the Trump administration's ambassador to the world body.

U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley criticized the report for critiquing the United States' treatment of its poor, arguing that the United Nations should instead focus on poverty in developing countries such as Burundi and Congo. The U.N. report also faulted the Trump administration for pursuing policies it said would exacerbate U.S. poverty.

“It is patently ridiculous for the United Nations to examine poverty in America,” Haley wrote in a letter to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Thursday. “In our country, the President, Members of Congress, Governors, Mayors, and City Council members actively engage on poverty issues every day. Compare that to the many countries around the world, whose governments knowingly abuse human rights and cause pain and suffering.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/21/nikki-haley-it-is-patently-ridiculous-for-the-united-nations-to-examine-poverty-in-america/?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.d02e594f99b7

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Nikki Haley: 'It is patently ridiculous for the United Nations to examine poverty in America' (Original Post) workinclasszero Jun 2018 OP
Talk like this haley, just knocked you out of any realm of possibility for a higher office... asiliveandbreathe Jun 2018 #1
I think that's why Drumpf put here there BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #26
I believe there was talk about a presidential run Kittycow Jun 2018 #49
In denial, aren't we? Freddie Jun 2018 #2
As plain as the nose on her face...... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2018 #3
"is that a nose, Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #8
Niki and Trump would likely have this country withdraw altogether from the United Nations, no_hypocrisy Jun 2018 #4
Give them time. Give them time. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #54
Dreams??? Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #56
This is why she wants to leave the UN Human Right Commission geardaddy Jun 2018 #5
This. CentralMass Jun 2018 #36
Actively engage HOW? bleedingulcers Jun 2018 #6
Laughing at the poor. C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #7
Nikki Fucking Haley is a racist, evil human rights abuser. CottonBear Jun 2018 #9
Seems like Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #11
Nimrata Haley is an evil GOP tool. She's delusional. Fuck her. CottonBear Jun 2018 #20
Seems like denial Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #21
I thought it was pretty expedient for her to go by a nick name Kittycow Jun 2018 #44
The GOP destroy the sick and the poor every damn day in Trump's Amerikkka workinclasszero Jun 2018 #10
"My boss is uncomfortable with anyone examining poverty in America." n/t Orsino Jun 2018 #12
we have the best poverty in the world! Thomas Hurt Jun 2018 #13
We're number 1!!!! workinclasszero Jun 2018 #15
Nikki Haley needs to visit Los Angeles. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #14
Why not use old scrap cruise ships Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #23
For 55,000 people? Sophia4 Jun 2018 #27
The longest journey starts Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #31
I worked on the homeless issue for 8 years -- many years ago. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #41
That's all true. I'm not ignorant to that line of work. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #43
I think Portland and Seattle have a pretty big homeless population also. Kittycow Jun 2018 #46
They do. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #48
'...knowingly abuse human rights and cause pain and suffering.' Volaris Jun 2018 #16
Clearly there are no mirrors in the Haley household gratuitous Jun 2018 #25
Tone, meet deaf. Again. GreenPartyVoter Jun 2018 #17
Hey, Niki, we might learn something helpful. Let em have a look. Hoyt Jun 2018 #18
The UN Finds That Poverty In The U.S. Is Shockingly Bad For A Developed Country workinclasszero Jun 2018 #19
Access to dental care is way above most people's means. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #29
I have NEVER understood why dental care and mental health aren't "basic health" Caliman73 Jun 2018 #45
Every roadside stretch of bushes and trees in my area is home to the homeless soryang Jun 2018 #22
Nikki Haley is patently ridiculous. spanone Jun 2018 #24
Love this part: thucythucy Jun 2018 #28
Also it seems like our benchmark should be Germany, France exboyfil Jun 2018 #32
Exactly!! Caliman73 Jun 2018 #50
It's like they put a bag over the head, so they won't see anything vlyons Jun 2018 #30
That attitude of being high and mighty is our Achilles heel. nolabear Jun 2018 #33
No poverty to see here, move along now. Canoe52 Jun 2018 #34
There are some parishes in Louisiana and Alabama where the avg per capita income is $5-7K a year. TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #35
It's patently ridiculous for them NOT to examine poverty in America. Iggo Jun 2018 #37
What are you afraid the UN will find, Nikki? Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #38
Nikki Haley has become a bad joke Johonny Jun 2018 #39
Be sure to thank Mr. Alston for his hard work on this subject the govt wants to ignore ck4829 Jun 2018 #40
Nikki Haley addresses the U.N. about poverty in America...... workinclasszero Jun 2018 #42
If anything, our nation's extreme poverty is beneficial to people like Nikki Haley ck4829 Jun 2018 #47
No doubt about it workinclasszero Jun 2018 #51
Sad. Iliyah Jun 2018 #52
WE ARE ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES... CousinIT Jun 2018 #53
Nikki: Get out from between the bed sheets and take a real NCjack Jun 2018 #55

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
1. Talk like this haley, just knocked you out of any realm of possibility for a higher office...
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:43 AM
Jun 2018

Not that you had a snowballs chance in hell before....

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
26. I think that's why Drumpf put here there
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jun 2018

TO neutralize here as a future opponent. That's really the only explanation given that she couldn't pick Congo or Argentina out on a map if her life depended on it. She's a rube.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
49. I believe there was talk about a presidential run
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:35 PM
Jun 2018

soon after she took office as SC governor . I thought it was premature but it was probably to jump on the Palin/GOP woman bandwagon and to counteract Hillary.

I'm just going from memory.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
3. As plain as the nose on her face......
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:43 AM
Jun 2018

Nikki Haley is as clueless about poverty in America and what Trump policies are doing to increase the problem, than she is addressing Confederate flags at the state capitol.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
8. "is that a nose,
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:47 AM
Jun 2018

or are you eating a banana?" Old time humor from the 50's.
I'm glad the world is fighting on our behalf. It's about time. We've been cannon fodder in the 2 big wars and they took it in stride. Giving back seems logical and appreciated.
"We are here, we are here, we are hereeee" (Horton Hears a Who)

no_hypocrisy

(46,119 posts)
4. Niki and Trump would likely have this country withdraw altogether from the United Nations,
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:44 AM
Jun 2018

possibly kick them out of United Nations Plaza (more land for Trump!), but for without the U.S., no other country would block resolutions that hold Israel responsible for human rights violations.

54. Give them time. Give them time.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jun 2018

I've seen "U.S. Out of U.N." signs everywhere since I was but a wee sprout, and I'm almost 70. This has been a long time dream of the far right, and now is the time to strike while the iron is hot.

The only thing Trump knows about the U.N. is that it is a waste of perfectly good riverfront property that could be developed into the most beautiful Trump condominiums the world has ever seen.

bleedingulcers

(43 posts)
6. Actively engage HOW?
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:44 AM
Jun 2018

I've not seen any activity except gutting any possible program that might help those in poverty.

It's like living in an alternate reality where up is down, right is left...

sigh

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
9. Nikki Fucking Haley is a racist, evil human rights abuser.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:48 AM
Jun 2018

Fuck her and Dotard and the entire GOP.

History will (already has...) judged the entire administration and the GOP as EVIL. Pure EVIL.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
20. Nimrata Haley is an evil GOP tool. She's delusional. Fuck her.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:05 AM
Jun 2018

I’m down in Georgia. She’s from the racist, Confederate state of South Carolina.

Considering that she’s the child of Indian immigrants, you’d think she’d have some tiny amount of compassion for asylum seekers and the poor. But she doesn’t, so fuck her.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
44. I thought it was pretty expedient for her to go by a nick name
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jun 2018

when she ran for governor in South Carolina. I wondered if she was trying to distract from not being white, but Bobby Jindal won previously and he was also Indian.

I vaguely recall that she had a couple of alleged scandals brushed under the rug. I was reading the RW rag FITSNews at the time and they were really against her for lack of character.

Palin jumped on the band wagon at the last minute when the polls were good to endorse her. Then when Nimrata won, the legend of Palin being a Kingmaker continued.

Just some minutae from 2010.
.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
10. The GOP destroy the sick and the poor every damn day in Trump's Amerikkka
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:49 AM
Jun 2018
“It is patently ridiculous for the United Nations to examine poverty in America,” Haley wrote in a letter to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Thursday.

The pro-life GOP party starves poor kids and kills sick old folks in this country.
 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
14. Nikki Haley needs to visit Los Angeles.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:51 AM
Jun 2018

It's warm here, even in the winter, comparatively warm. And it does not rain much. Under our freeway bridges, there are tents. We have tents and homeless and poor people everywhere -- maybe 55,000 per night.



On any given day, as many as 20 people take to the City Hall lawn, across the street from LAPD headquarters. They're there to "escape the madness" in downtown streets, a 53-year-old homeless man named Lazarus said last week. At night, they fan out to doorways or deserted plazas to wait for daybreak.

The growth of a homeless day camp at the halls of civic power speaks to the breadth of Los Angeles' burgeoning homelessness problem.

The number of those living in the streets and shelters of the city of L.A. and most of the county surged 75% — to roughly 55,000 from about 32,000 — in the last six years. (Including Glendale, Pasadena and Long Beach, which conduct their own homeless counts, the total is nearly 58,000.)

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-homeless-how-we-got-here-20180201-story.html

They don't all "come from" Los Angeles. It's a national problem. Nikki Haley is out of touch with her own country.

The size of the problem makes it insurmountable. Housing is just too expensive in the Los Angeles area.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
23. Why not use old scrap cruise ships
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:08 AM
Jun 2018

to house people. Like during disasters? Seems quick and easy and containable.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
27. For 55,000 people?
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:14 AM
Jun 2018

And temporary solutions are not the answer.

I worked for a homeless shelter for eight years -- trying to fund the projects with grants and donations. It was a great concept that involved employing people, helping them find jobs and housing and even creating our own businesses and work and living spaces. But it takes a lot of money to run such a project, and the homeless population has grown out of control since then.

Most of the country does not understand what we face in our warm, dry climate when it comes to housing. And the "affordable" housing that is being built is not really very affordable on most incomes.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
41. I worked on the homeless issue for 8 years -- many years ago.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:57 PM
Jun 2018

It has only gotten worse since then. Incremental answers are not the issue.

It is the whole attitude toward who gets to have what. A lot of the homeless people work. Housing is just incredibly expensive here. Look at the rentals on a site like Zillow. The price to rent housing per month is unbelievable.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
43. That's all true. I'm not ignorant to that line of work.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:16 PM
Jun 2018

But a cruise ship is a start. Then another, or the next step.
Thanks for your work.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
46. I think Portland and Seattle have a pretty big homeless population also.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jun 2018

I'm not up in the numbers though.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
16. '...knowingly abuse human rights and cause pain and suffering.'
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:53 AM
Jun 2018

THIS WEEK she said that. Let that just sit there for a minute...

Another tone-deaf supergenius who thinks theyre Ludwig Van, I guess.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. Clearly there are no mirrors in the Haley household
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jun 2018

This kind of duplicity takes its toll on a person.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. The UN Finds That Poverty In The U.S. Is Shockingly Bad For A Developed Country
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:57 AM
Jun 2018
After a trip around the country, Philip Alston, the United Nations’ special rapporteur on extreme poverty, was shocked by what he found.
BY BEN SCHILLER 12.21.17

Philip Alston has seen a lot of miserable living conditions in his work as the United Nations’ special rapporteur on extreme poverty. But what he witnessed on a recent fact-finding trip around the United States still disturbed him. The U.S. is supposed to be a rich and advanced country and yet 40 million people in the country now live below the poverty line. And–as Alston found–many Americans don’t even have access to basic sanitation and healthcare.

In rural Alabama, he stood over open sewers a few feet from people’s homes. Parts of the state are seeing the first outbreak of hookworm–a blood-eating parasite that invades the body on contact with feces, common in the developing world–in decades. In West Virginia, he saw men and women who have lost all their teeth because there are no dental care programs for the very poor. In L.A. and San Francisco, he found persistent homelessness in some of the most economically productive cities in the world.

“In the lead up to my visit to the U.S., my team and I spent considerable time researching the state of poverty and human rights in the United States,” Alston tells Fast Company. “I was still deeply shocked.”

Average life expectancy is falling for the first time since 1993. The U.S. ranks 36th in the world for access to water and sanitation. We rank 35th out of 37 richer countries for poverty and inequality. Our incarceration rate–about five times the OECD average–saps economic opportunity, reduces turnout in elections, and hides poverty from view, Alston says. (The poverty line is about $24,000 a year for a family of four; 18.5 million Americans have family income of only half that.)


https://www.fastcompany.com/40509789/the-un-finds-that-poverty-in-the-u-s-is-shockingly-bad-for-a-developed-country
 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
29. Access to dental care is way above most people's means.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:16 AM
Jun 2018

When I lived in Europe, it was part of everyone's basic healthcare insurance policy.

Dental care was covered at that time although I had to pay for the pain killer if I had a cavity filled. It was not that much money.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
45. I have NEVER understood why dental care and mental health aren't "basic health"
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jun 2018

An abscessed tooth can kill you just as quickly as a heart attack. Not being able to access psychological services can lead to suicide as well.

The idea that healthcare is a commodity that is subject to profit making has always been a sickness in this country. We have been told that healthcare is something that is to be bought and paid for like a new television or a candy bar, that the market would manage all of the complexity around health and healthcare decisions. Bull! People do not like to think about health and illness already. Many are already emotionally invested in avoiding "bad news". You add having to pay, possibly more than you can afford, on top of that and you have a healthcare crisis on your hands. Add Insurance companies gambling (with Casino like odds) on people's health and utilization, and you throw up another obstacle.

Health is about the whole person, their physical from head to toes and their emotional. Everything affects everything else.

soryang

(3,299 posts)
22. Every roadside stretch of bushes and trees in my area is home to the homeless
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jun 2018

And this is in a relatively prosperous area. She's living in a fantasy world.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
24. Nikki Haley is patently ridiculous.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:09 AM
Jun 2018

p.s. nikki, trump is knowingly abusing human rights and causing pain and suffering.

thucythucy

(8,069 posts)
28. Love this part:
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:15 AM
Jun 2018

"Compare that to the many countries around the world, whose governments knowingly abuse human rights and cause pain and suffering."

But Nikki, the governments of Russia and North Korea get such high praise from your boss.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
50. Exactly!!
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jun 2018

Why would we compare ourselves with countries that have lower GDP than some of our poorest states?

"Sure I got a D on my honors English class but look at the kids in the remedial English, they can't read".


We never compare ourselves to countries with comparable structures because we come out looking stupid.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
33. That attitude of being high and mighty is our Achilles heel.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:21 AM
Jun 2018

When you base your self-concept on being better than everyone else the idea of needing help is humiliating rather than sustaining. It’s immature. But we are ridiculously immature as a society.

Freethinker65

(10,023 posts)
38. What are you afraid the UN will find, Nikki?
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:25 PM
Jun 2018

America is a perfect historical example how a rich nation treats its less fortunate. There is so much to be learned from the implementation of GOP/Trump policies.

The world will be a better place if it learns from the mistakes being made here.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
39. Nikki Haley has become a bad joke
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:48 PM
Jun 2018

Unfortunately people like her will out last the administration and likely land in the Senate or another administrations cabinet. In the GOP your never disqualified for another job, just ask Oliver North or Ken Starr.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
47. If anything, our nation's extreme poverty is beneficial to people like Nikki Haley
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jun 2018

If you're rich, even if you're rich through no work of your own... Well that means God is on your side, that means you must be physically, mentally, and spiritually superior to the poor. Nobody would support Trump if he was poor, like really poor. Nobody.

Our healthcare system decides who is worthy of life or death based on the money you have. There's no other way around that.

Our media and politicians call the poor lazy and good-for-nothing, but then turn around and practically celebrate the ennui that the rich possess.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
51. No doubt about it
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jun 2018

The prosperity heresy has taken full control of lots of American churches, 100% of the evangelical right ones I bet.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
52. Sad.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:46 PM
Jun 2018

Sad that she and the rest of the Republican party with a straight face can lie but it all boils down to "they just don't care".

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
53. WE ARE ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES...
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jun 2018

..."whose governments knowingly abuse human rights and cause pain and suffering."

THAT IS THE TRUMP ADMIN defined and THAT is why the UN is calling it out.

DUH.

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