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By Jeff Stein June 21 at 2:11 PM
A United Nations report condemning entrenched poverty in the United States is a misleading and politically motivated document about the wealthiest and freest country in the world, according to the Trump administration's ambassador to the world body.
U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley criticized the report for critiquing the United States' treatment of its poor, arguing that the United Nations should instead focus on poverty in developing countries such as Burundi and Congo. The U.N. report also faulted the Trump administration for pursuing policies it said would exacerbate U.S. poverty.
It is patently ridiculous for the United Nations to examine poverty in America, Haley wrote in a letter to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Thursday. In our country, the President, Members of Congress, Governors, Mayors, and City Council members actively engage on poverty issues every day. Compare that to the many countries around the world, whose governments knowingly abuse human rights and cause pain and suffering.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/21/nikki-haley-it-is-patently-ridiculous-for-the-united-nations-to-examine-poverty-in-america/?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.d02e594f99b7
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Not that you had a snowballs chance in hell before....
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)TO neutralize here as a future opponent. That's really the only explanation given that she couldn't pick Congo or Argentina out on a map if her life depended on it. She's a rube.
Kittycow
(2,396 posts)soon after she took office as SC governor . I thought it was premature but it was probably to jump on the Palin/GOP woman bandwagon and to counteract Hillary.
I'm just going from memory.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Nikki Haley is as clueless about poverty in America and what Trump policies are doing to increase the problem, than she is addressing Confederate flags at the state capitol.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)or are you eating a banana?" Old time humor from the 50's.
I'm glad the world is fighting on our behalf. It's about time. We've been cannon fodder in the 2 big wars and they took it in stride. Giving back seems logical and appreciated.
"We are here, we are here, we are hereeee" (Horton Hears a Who)
no_hypocrisy
(46,119 posts)possibly kick them out of United Nations Plaza (more land for Trump!), but for without the U.S., no other country would block resolutions that hold Israel responsible for human rights violations.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)I've seen "U.S. Out of U.N." signs everywhere since I was but a wee sprout, and I'm almost 70. This has been a long time dream of the far right, and now is the time to strike while the iron is hot.
The only thing Trump knows about the U.N. is that it is a waste of perfectly good riverfront property that could be developed into the most beautiful Trump condominiums the world has ever seen.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)only rich people get dreams to come through. They're entitled. (Talk about entitlements)
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)So the UN can't inspect our situation.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)bleedingulcers
(43 posts)I've not seen any activity except gutting any possible program that might help those in poverty.
It's like living in an alternate reality where up is down, right is left...
sigh
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)It's a Republican tradition.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Fuck her and Dotard and the entire GOP.
History will (already has...) judged the entire administration and the GOP as EVIL. Pure EVIL.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)she thinks she's as respected as Sec. Clinton. She's not. Not by a long shot.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Im down in Georgia. Shes from the racist, Confederate state of South Carolina.
Considering that shes the child of Indian immigrants, youd think shed have some tiny amount of compassion for asylum seekers and the poor. But she doesnt, so fuck her.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)and self-loathing. We feel it too....FOR HER. Not my president.
Kittycow
(2,396 posts)when she ran for governor in South Carolina. I wondered if she was trying to distract from not being white, but Bobby Jindal won previously and he was also Indian.
I vaguely recall that she had a couple of alleged scandals brushed under the rug. I was reading the RW rag FITSNews at the time and they were really against her for lack of character.
Palin jumped on the band wagon at the last minute when the polls were good to endorse her. Then when Nimrata won, the legend of Palin being a Kingmaker continued.
Just some minutae from 2010.
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workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The pro-life GOP party starves poor kids and kills sick old folks in this country.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)It's warm here, even in the winter, comparatively warm. And it does not rain much. Under our freeway bridges, there are tents. We have tents and homeless and poor people everywhere -- maybe 55,000 per night.
On any given day, as many as 20 people take to the City Hall lawn, across the street from LAPD headquarters. They're there to "escape the madness" in downtown streets, a 53-year-old homeless man named Lazarus said last week. At night, they fan out to doorways or deserted plazas to wait for daybreak.
The growth of a homeless day camp at the halls of civic power speaks to the breadth of Los Angeles' burgeoning homelessness problem.
The number of those living in the streets and shelters of the city of L.A. and most of the county surged 75% to roughly 55,000 from about 32,000 in the last six years. (Including Glendale, Pasadena and Long Beach, which conduct their own homeless counts, the total is nearly 58,000.)
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-homeless-how-we-got-here-20180201-story.html
They don't all "come from" Los Angeles. It's a national problem. Nikki Haley is out of touch with her own country.
The size of the problem makes it insurmountable. Housing is just too expensive in the Los Angeles area.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)to house people. Like during disasters? Seems quick and easy and containable.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)And temporary solutions are not the answer.
I worked for a homeless shelter for eight years -- trying to fund the projects with grants and donations. It was a great concept that involved employing people, helping them find jobs and housing and even creating our own businesses and work and living spaces. But it takes a lot of money to run such a project, and the homeless population has grown out of control since then.
Most of the country does not understand what we face in our warm, dry climate when it comes to housing. And the "affordable" housing that is being built is not really very affordable on most incomes.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)w the first step grasshopper. Incremental answers are ok too.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)It has only gotten worse since then. Incremental answers are not the issue.
It is the whole attitude toward who gets to have what. A lot of the homeless people work. Housing is just incredibly expensive here. Look at the rentals on a site like Zillow. The price to rent housing per month is unbelievable.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)But a cruise ship is a start. Then another, or the next step.
Thanks for your work.
Kittycow
(2,396 posts)I'm not up in the numbers though.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)Volaris
(10,272 posts)THIS WEEK she said that. Let that just sit there for a minute...
Another tone-deaf supergenius who thinks theyre Ludwig Van, I guess.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)This kind of duplicity takes its toll on a person.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)BY BEN SCHILLER 12.21.17
In rural Alabama, he stood over open sewers a few feet from peoples homes. Parts of the state are seeing the first outbreak of hookworma blood-eating parasite that invades the body on contact with feces, common in the developing worldin decades. In West Virginia, he saw men and women who have lost all their teeth because there are no dental care programs for the very poor. In L.A. and San Francisco, he found persistent homelessness in some of the most economically productive cities in the world.
In the lead up to my visit to the U.S., my team and I spent considerable time researching the state of poverty and human rights in the United States, Alston tells Fast Company. I was still deeply shocked.
Average life expectancy is falling for the first time since 1993. The U.S. ranks 36th in the world for access to water and sanitation. We rank 35th out of 37 richer countries for poverty and inequality. Our incarceration rateabout five times the OECD averagesaps economic opportunity, reduces turnout in elections, and hides poverty from view, Alston says. (The poverty line is about $24,000 a year for a family of four; 18.5 million Americans have family income of only half that.)
https://www.fastcompany.com/40509789/the-un-finds-that-poverty-in-the-u-s-is-shockingly-bad-for-a-developed-country
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)When I lived in Europe, it was part of everyone's basic healthcare insurance policy.
Dental care was covered at that time although I had to pay for the pain killer if I had a cavity filled. It was not that much money.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)An abscessed tooth can kill you just as quickly as a heart attack. Not being able to access psychological services can lead to suicide as well.
The idea that healthcare is a commodity that is subject to profit making has always been a sickness in this country. We have been told that healthcare is something that is to be bought and paid for like a new television or a candy bar, that the market would manage all of the complexity around health and healthcare decisions. Bull! People do not like to think about health and illness already. Many are already emotionally invested in avoiding "bad news". You add having to pay, possibly more than you can afford, on top of that and you have a healthcare crisis on your hands. Add Insurance companies gambling (with Casino like odds) on people's health and utilization, and you throw up another obstacle.
Health is about the whole person, their physical from head to toes and their emotional. Everything affects everything else.
soryang
(3,299 posts)And this is in a relatively prosperous area. She's living in a fantasy world.
spanone
(135,844 posts)p.s. nikki, trump is knowingly abusing human rights and causing pain and suffering.
thucythucy
(8,069 posts)"Compare that to the many countries around the world, whose governments knowingly abuse human rights and cause pain and suffering."
But Nikki, the governments of Russia and North Korea get such high praise from your boss.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)UK, and Japan - not Sudan or Guyana.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Why would we compare ourselves with countries that have lower GDP than some of our poorest states?
"Sure I got a D on my honors English class but look at the kids in the remedial English, they can't read".
We never compare ourselves to countries with comparable structures because we come out looking stupid.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)that contradicts their fantacies.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)When you base your self-concept on being better than everyone else the idea of needing help is humiliating rather than sustaining. Its immature. But we are ridiculously immature as a society.
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,208 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)Because of all the poverty here.
Freethinker65
(10,023 posts)America is a perfect historical example how a rich nation treats its less fortunate. There is so much to be learned from the implementation of GOP/Trump policies.
The world will be a better place if it learns from the mistakes being made here.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)Unfortunately people like her will out last the administration and likely land in the Senate or another administrations cabinet. In the GOP your never disqualified for another job, just ask Oliver North or Ken Starr.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)If you're rich, even if you're rich through no work of your own... Well that means God is on your side, that means you must be physically, mentally, and spiritually superior to the poor. Nobody would support Trump if he was poor, like really poor. Nobody.
Our healthcare system decides who is worthy of life or death based on the money you have. There's no other way around that.
Our media and politicians call the poor lazy and good-for-nothing, but then turn around and practically celebrate the ennui that the rich possess.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The prosperity heresy has taken full control of lots of American churches, 100% of the evangelical right ones I bet.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Sad that she and the rest of the Republican party with a straight face can lie but it all boils down to "they just don't care".
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)..."whose governments knowingly abuse human rights and cause pain and suffering."
THAT IS THE TRUMP ADMIN defined and THAT is why the UN is calling it out.
DUH.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)tour of America.