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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts) Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:52 PM Jun 2018

Illegal Immigration Does Not Increase Violent Crime, 4 Studies Show

May 2, 20185:09 AM ET
Heard on Morning Edition
John Burnett

... All of this comes as no surprise to Art Acevedo, the police chief in Houston, which has one of largest undocumented populations in the nation. The chief has been publicly critical of the immigration crackdown.

"There's no wave of crime being committed by the immigrant community," Acevedo said. "As a matter of fact, a lot of the violent crime that we're dealing with is being committed by people that are born and raised right here in the United States" ...

"Having worked around this community my entire professional career, which is about 32 years, I know that the vast majority of them that I've encountered are hard-working. They're here to earn an honest living," Acevedo said ...

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/607652253/studies-say-illegal-immigration-does-not-increase-violent-crime

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Illegal Immigration Does Not Increase Violent Crime, 4 Studies Show (Original Post) struggle4progress Jun 2018 OP

Illegal Immigrant Conviction and Arrest Rates for Homicide, Sexual Assault, Larceny, and Other Crime struggle4progress Jun 2018 #1

The orange pig says that's not true. He knows. sinkingfeeling Jun 2018 #2

Yup, like he knows the Central Park 5 are guilty Caliman73 Jun 2018 #5

Side note. Caliman73 Jun 2018 #7

Undocumented people are often victims however. Caliman73 Jun 2018 #3

Everything he said is a lie...what else is new. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #4

Of course that's true. But we need better than "he's a liar" to reach the waffling middle struggle4progress Jun 2018 #6

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)

1. Illegal Immigrant Conviction and Arrest Rates for Homicide, Sexual Assault, Larceny, and Other Crime

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:54 PM

Jun 2018

By Alex Nowrasteh
February 26, 2018

... In Texas in 2015, the criminal conviction and arrest rates for immigrants were well below those of native-born Americans. Moreover, the conviction and arrest rates for illegal immigrants were lower than those for native-born Americans. This result holds for most crimes ...

https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)

2. The orange pig says that's not true. He knows.

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:56 PM

Jun 2018

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)

5. Yup, like he knows the Central Park 5 are guilty

Reply to sinkingfeeling (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:59 PM

Jun 2018

Even though they were exonerated by forensic evidence and a real, not coerced, confession. He just knows....

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)

7. Side note.

Reply to sinkingfeeling (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 04:02 PM

Jun 2018

My children were getting an educational magazine after we bought some children's clothing or backpacks or something from an online catalog.

One of the issues had a pig with a wig on it. The wig was an orangish blonde. My then 5 year old said, "Mira, como Donald Trump" (Look, like Donald Trump). I almost peed. We kept the magazine. I'll have to scan and post one of these days.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)

3. Undocumented people are often victims however.

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:57 PM

Jun 2018

They get robbed and cheated, and threatened because the criminals know that they are not likely to go to the police for help, for fear of putting themselves at risk for deportation.

That is why when Democratic politicians ask for sane immigration policies with a pathway to citizenship, they are doing so for the protection of the immigrants themselves. If you have legal status, you can participate more fully in the community. You can call the police without as much fear of bringing legal problems upon yourself. You can complain to City Hall. Bringing people out from the shadows makes this country stronger. Immigrants tend to be people who REALLY want to be hear and they do not take the United States for granted like many native born people do.

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)

4. Everything he said is a lie...what else is new.

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:58 PM

Jun 2018

In CA crime by immigrants has been going DOWN for years! Of all the crimes most are committed by legal citizens and not illegal immigrants. Of course the deplorables believe every single word.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-are-crime-and-immigration-correlated-20180307-htmlstory.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/us/trump-illegal-immigrants-crime.html

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)

6. Of course that's true. But we need better than "he's a liar" to reach the waffling middle

Reply to BigmanPigman (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 04:00 PM

Jun 2018

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