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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:23 AM Jun 2018

Why We Are Leaving the G.O.P.

By Susan Bevan and Susan Cullman
Ms. Bevan and Ms. Cullman are leaders of Republican Majority for Choice.
June 24, 2018

When the obituary for the Republican Party is written, the year 1980 will be cited as the beginning of the end. Reaganism was in full flower, but the big tent was already folding. Republican leaders endorsed a constitutional ban on abortion at the convention that summer, ending the party’s historic commitment to women’s rights and personal freedom.

“We are about to bury the rights of over 100 million American women under a heap of platitudes,” protested Mary Dent Crisp, the co-chairwoman of the Republican National Committee. Her colleagues assured her that the platform was nonbinding and that reproductive health services were not in danger.

But she was prescient. As pro-choice Republicans, we refuse to support a party that has rightly earned the labels anti-woman and anti-common sense. Our organization, the Republican Majority for Choice, the organization founded by Ms. Crisp in 1988, is shutting its doors. The big tent has collapsed for good.

It is no wonder that women are voting with their feet. According to a recent analysis by the Pew Research Center, 56 percent of women identify as or lean toward Democrats. The gap is even wider among college graduates and minority voters. The party should take note that 70 percent of millennial women have either registered as Democrats or lean Democratic.

It has become taboo within the party to even say “pro-choice.” Most of our supporters gave up on the party as it moved to the extremes not just on abortion but also on other social and fiscal issues.

This Republican Party is no family of ours. And so we say goodbye.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/opinion/abortion-rights-republican-party-women.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region
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Why We Are Leaving the G.O.P. (Original Post) workinclasszero Jun 2018 OP
LOL manor321 Jun 2018 #1
Yes, kidnapping infants is FINALLY a bridge too far n/t maxrandb Jun 2018 #6
The GOPers that remain after that atrocity workinclasszero Jun 2018 #19
D-E-N-I-A-L, and... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #20
I'm with you. Until I see results at the polls I won't forget that 53%... brush Jun 2018 #30
I feel tRump's treatment of immigrant children will... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #37
"...woe be unto his orange butt." I love that. Nice turn of phrase. brush Jun 2018 #41
Good news for us. These decisions are not easy to make. secondwind Jun 2018 #2
Of the last five Republican presidents: struggle4progress Jun 2018 #3
You forgot Ford jayschool2013 Jun 2018 #22
Ford may have been near the top volstork Jun 2018 #24
I've always regarded Ford as simply a growth on the Nixon administration struggle4progress Jun 2018 #27
Like a tumor! jayschool2013 Jun 2018 #28
Each has built upon the criminal foundation laid by his predecessors. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #23
they, republicans do bdamomma Jun 2018 #33
What we are facing... we won't want to face....!!! Civic Justice Jun 2018 #4
Agree, but low information and Fox brain-washed minions don't read. pazzyanne Jun 2018 #10
X 100 Duppers Jun 2018 #26
comforting sentiment, but last time i looked, they're not the party that's out of power. KG Jun 2018 #5
For each of these people quitting NOW. Where have you been for the last half century? Afromania Jun 2018 #7
Desperately trying to save the GOP from itself Pacifist Patriot Jun 2018 #8
The party had no intentions of being saved. They have been doing what they do for too long. Afromania Jun 2018 #11
It's easy to tell someone now that their efforts were a waste of time, and DUers know Pacifist Patriot Jun 2018 #14
There was enough of something to keep the in the republican party. The republican party that has mad Afromania Jun 2018 #25
Thanks for the info. Provides context Raven123 Jun 2018 #34
I used to feel the same way Vogon_Glory Jun 2018 #39
And it only took them 38 years since the "turning point" to hop on the clue bus hatrack Jun 2018 #9
Probably about as many as the Log Cabin Republicans workinclasszero Jun 2018 #31
LOL, is there a "Democrats for Racism" chapter near me? klook Jun 2018 #32
IKR? workinclasszero Jun 2018 #36
Let's not alienate people like this. llmart Jun 2018 #12
How "big tent" do we go? CrispyQ Jun 2018 #38
So, punching yourselves in the face didn't work out? Liberalagogo Jun 2018 #13
Trapped in a cage with the monster they helped create. Waa, waa. n/t sarge43 Jun 2018 #15
BFD Liberal In Texas Jun 2018 #16
52% of white women voted from Drumpf BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #17
56% of white women NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #35
There are no longer any Politcal Parties Cryptoad Jun 2018 #18
Were they in a coma when the hundreds of anti-abortion & contraception bills swept the catbyte Jun 2018 #21
Sure took them a long time to realize the truth, didn't it? lark Jun 2018 #29
everyone feels sorry when their necks are in the noose DonCoquixote Jun 2018 #40
Better late than never. Dawson Leery Jun 2018 #42
My husband, a life-long Republican, is no longer. phylny Jun 2018 #43

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
20. D-E-N-I-A-L, and...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:28 AM
Jun 2018

an authoritarian mentality coupled with a morbid fear of being wrong.

Just guessing, but I would bet these women still support massive tax cuts and the butchering of our government.....

brush

(53,871 posts)
30. I'm with you. Until I see results at the polls I won't forget that 53%...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:01 AM
Jun 2018

of white women voters voted for trump.

Action speaks louder than words, ladies.

Show up at the polls and vote Democratic.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
37. I feel tRump's treatment of immigrant children will...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:40 AM
Jun 2018

make a big dent in that 53%.

And, when health care costs start to skyrocket and more women's clinics close, woe be unto his orange butt........

struggle4progress

(118,348 posts)
3. Of the last five Republican presidents:
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:57 AM
Jun 2018

one resigned in disgrace after his dirty tricks were exposed;

the next suffered from Alzheimer's, officiated over what was (until then) the most corrupt administration in US history, and ran an illegal war from the White House basement;

the one after that was a covert operative, who pardoned those involved in the illegal war to protect himself;

the next, his son, was installed in office after justices his father appointed stopped the vote count in Florida so that he could inherit the Oval Office despite losing the popular vote;

and now we have this guy!

GOP doesn't have a very good record for the last 50 years

volstork

(5,403 posts)
24. Ford may have been near the top
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:48 AM
Jun 2018

of the "worst" pile. His pardon of nixon allowed nixon's subterranean cronies to resurface 30 years later: cheney, rumsfeld, wolfowitz, etc. It also set a precedent for not prosecuting crimes against the Republic, which continued through bush I, bush II, and even Obama.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. Each has built upon the criminal foundation laid by his predecessors.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:41 AM
Jun 2018

...as we have failed to punish them, they have become ever more emboldened.

bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
33. they, republicans do
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:22 AM
Jun 2018

not how to govern, just butcher away at programs and our institutions. They feel "entitlement" let's see how long that lasts.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
4. What we are facing... we won't want to face....!!!
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:59 AM
Jun 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210780774

Those who see the wrong direction of Republican, can make the change away from Republican System, when they see the truths that unfold which will continue to devastate them.


Reading can provide information to help people understand what they see. (please be patient enough to invest in reading, its how we as a society were groomed to learn) We can give our thanks unto our public schools for the gift of education, by using it "read" that we can become better informed. We owe it to ourselves and our American society, as well as the offspring's who's future is at stake.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210779687

pazzyanne

(6,557 posts)
10. Agree, but low information and Fox brain-washed minions don't read.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:29 AM
Jun 2018

They are the learn from experience and denial Americans who won't admit things aren't going well until they are on the street without social programs to support them because they voted those programs out. Then it will be too late.

Afromania

(2,771 posts)
7. For each of these people quitting NOW. Where have you been for the last half century?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:13 AM
Jun 2018

A better question is where have you been the last 18, or an even better question the last 2. What's happening now has always been the endgame. Anybody paying any attention could see it. Nice n all that they have decided to buy some smoke detectors today but the house is completely on fire and the embers are threatening the houses next to us. I wonder how much a privatized fire department will charge us to put this out.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
8. Desperately trying to save the GOP from itself
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:16 AM
Jun 2018

I know several women involved in this organization. None voted for Trump.

They are, for lack of a better term, Eisenhower Republicans. They truly felt they could work from the inside to correct the insane trajectory. This is an admission of defeat for all their efforts over the last few decades.

Afromania

(2,771 posts)
11. The party had no intentions of being saved. They have been doing what they do for too long.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:29 AM
Jun 2018

The gop didnt need saving, the country did, from them. From the people they sided with right up to and past the jumping off point for sane people. This isnt about party but what is right and proper and right and proper hasn't been on the gop blueprint for longer than I have been alive. So talking this talk now is disingenuous at best and a move toa synical atteempt at cover butts at the worst. You say they don't vote for trump; that was the easy part but did they actively move against him and the GOP that permitted him to continue unabated? Did they vote for Hillary?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
14. It's easy to tell someone now that their efforts were a waste of time, and DUers know
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:41 AM
Jun 2018

full well they were tilting at windmills. But you can't tell that to someone inside until it's too late.

I know several of these women did vote for Hillary and one abstained from voting at all. I don't know about the others. One Hillary voter in this group knocked doors for Clinton with me.

I don't think any of us can say for certain what was in someone else's head or heart. I just know it was a very frustrating and painful time for these women. I'm not asking for pity for them, I've argued with them vehemently over the years. But to assume they did nothing but wring their hands is wrong. These women in my local area fought hard to get moderate pro-choice Republicans through the primaries to keep tea party nut jobs out of the general election. They had some success there and a couple of failures. Their successes have made a difference in preventing a bat shit insane voting block on the county commission.

When your area is so red it's pretty much a foregone conclusion the election will go to a Republican, getting a moderate through the primary can make all the difference in the world.



Afromania

(2,771 posts)
25. There was enough of something to keep the in the republican party. The republican party that has mad
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:48 AM
Jun 2018

It job one to dismantle the country and demonize me while they were doing it. You're going to excuse me if I'm of no mind to say good job on just figuring this all out because its clear that the GOP had their necks dotted for cutting the entire time you were arguing with them. Perhaps if they just walked away from republican ism it would have spurred others on to do so. You tell me I don't know what's in their hearts, well I don't need to know because the refusal to listen to you while they tilted at republican windmills is telling me I need to know, republican or nothing. A moderate republican is still a republican and last time I checked they more or less walk in complete lock step with the crazies that made the mess we are in.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
9. And it only took them 38 years since the "turning point" to hop on the clue bus
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:19 AM
Jun 2018

Good work, ladies!

BTW, how many members does Republican Majority for Choice have left? 200? 300?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
31. Probably about as many as the Log Cabin Republicans
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:05 AM
Jun 2018
Log Cabin Republicans is the nation’s largest Republican organization dedicated to representing LGBT conservatives and allies. For more than 30 years, we have promoted the fight for equality through our state and local chapters, our full-time office in Washington, DC, and our federal and state political action committees.


http://www.logcabin.org/


klook

(12,167 posts)
32. LOL, is there a "Democrats for Racism" chapter near me?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:18 AM
Jun 2018

Fortunately the Dixiecrats are a thing of the past, except for maybe the stray throwback here and there.

Democrats For Racism would make about as much sense as Log Cabin Republicans.

llmart

(15,552 posts)
12. Let's not alienate people like this.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:34 AM
Jun 2018

Yes, I understand the "where have you been the past 30 years" sentiment, but I would rather see these women openly state they are leaving the Republican party then have them continue to live a lie.

If the Democrats are going to be the "big tent" party, then we also have to welcome ex-Republicans.

I still maintain that if our republic is to be saved, it will be the women who will do it.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)
38. How "big tent" do we go?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jun 2018

A career republican is running as a democrat for Al Franken's old seat. Is that big tent enough? Maybe we can encourage more disgruntled GOP members to run as dems & take our party even further to the right. Accepting the likes of Richard Painter, Steve Schmidt, Nicole Wallace*, etc., into the party just because they are anti-Trump seems like a mistake. Let them form their own new conservative party, instead of trying to hijack the only other major party with the infrastructure to win elections. People whined about Bernie Sanders running as a dem but are okay with Richard Painter. WTF? At least Bernie caucuses with the dems.

* Schmidt & Wallace have not announced their intent to join the Democratic Party or run as dems, but there is an open acceptance of them & other republicans, into the party simply because they are speaking out against Trump right now.

Liberal In Texas

(13,576 posts)
16. BFD
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:53 AM
Jun 2018

They'll just call themselves Independents and still vote for repubs.
But maybe they won't vote for the "p grabber" next time.


NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
35. 56% of white women
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:25 AM
Jun 2018

voted for Romney in 2012.

In 2016, college educated white women voted Democratic for the first time ever.

It's trending in the right direction - if Trump drops below 50% with white women in general, it won't be good for Republicans.

catbyte

(34,454 posts)
21. Were they in a coma when the hundreds of anti-abortion & contraception bills swept the
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:38 AM
Jun 2018

nation after the 2010 election clusterfuck? That was 7 years ago. I guess it's better late than never, but come on.

lark

(23,156 posts)
29. Sure took them a long time to realize the truth, didn't it?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jun 2018

Geeze, are they slow learners or were just so wed to their party they couldn't, wouldn't see the truth?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
40. everyone feels sorry when their necks are in the noose
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:27 PM
Jun 2018

And frankly, I know that some would say "see, we are winning them to our side!" Sorry, but these folks willl gladly get on the GOP train once a Mike pence or Paul Ryan or Rubio comes along and says "See, we changed!"

phylny

(8,389 posts)
43. My husband, a life-long Republican, is no longer.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:10 PM
Jun 2018

He voted for Obama twice, and he's my watch buddy for Rachel at 9 pm. I don't rub it in his face - he mourns for the "fiscally conservative" party that he joined, but he sees the big picture now.

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