Joe went off on a long screed about what is happening at the border with a long discussion with the panel calling it kidnapping.

was them sitting around "tsk,tsk-ing" Hungry-Hungry Sarah and Hitler Wet Dream Kirstjen Nielsen getting "challenged" in public.

Then they moved on to how Donnie Shit for Brains is at 45% approval in ONE poll and that 90% of what's left of the ReTrumplican Party would eat a yard of his shit, just for the chance to see where it came from.

Then finally, mentioning that kidnapping kids is NOT quite 'Murikan, BUT THE MAJORITY OF TRUMPLICANS JUST FUCKING LOVE IT

It was nothing but 45 minutes of Gaslighting

More on his failure to indicate his recent article’s ostensible average Republican voter was in fact a dedicated alt-Right activist:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TPCarney/status/1011191049572765697

My "NaziDar" starts activating whenever I see him.

He's got the "Reich" kind of haircut...if you know what I mean

First; I didn't care for Cuomo's approach to things when he was on in the morning

second; I wanted to get a look at how a 90's conservative was viewing the events going on as they happened. I've got a ton of ways to know what my own party is doing and my own representatives as well as a slew of hosts and pundits on the left.

third; There are some interesting people that are on regularly, such as John Meachem and Admiral Stavaris, that provides for some solid context to situations that you don't get on some other programs.

fourth; I like to listen to the sides that I don't agree with and place my views against it to see where I can find agreement and work from there.

fifth; I hate the groupthink that happens here in telling people that all things must be our way all the time. That's not how any of this works, from news to books to TV shows and movies and so forth. We're all coming from different walks of life and have to meet in the commons to be able to understand each other and move it forward.

sixth; it seems to set some people into a minor rage that people do watch so there's some enjoyment with that.

I could easily add a few others as well. It's engaging watching how a classic conservative like Joe gets enraged over certain things in a way that you would never imagine happening when his party has control of all three branches. I'm appreciative that they're not in lockstep as they've been for years on a lot of subjects, especially when those in power in his party in the house and senate are so goddamn quiet. Yeah, he may say "Back when I was in the house" too often for a lot of people but that's not a view you're seeing on the pundit level anywhere else for the most part.

Does that work for an answer?

I appreciate you taking the time.

I certainly do not care what anyone watches; I just always found it amazing to see the enraged comment about a show they CHOSE to watch. (Obviously, you are not one of those.)

Not my thing but people have done that since forever. I can't understand that mindset. Too many other things I'd rather do with my time.

A new term for me!

A lot of people hatewatch The Walking Dead and then spend the days after that railing about how awful it is online.

It really makes no sense.

never watch them.

I usually leave when it begins. We have known each other for years, so it is an ongoing thing.

Hate watching is a new term for me, and it makes perfect sense!

Probably an inner battle over how much they enjoy it or sometimes it's just about feeling superior/better than those that you see on it. I don't do reality shows in general but that's a loose term. I adore the new Queer Eye series and I watch a ton of HGTV since it's so absolutely removed from politics and generally positive in tone and style that it's a great thing to mix into my day.

As i write, I just got off the phone with this old pal; she is watching old Big Brother shows! Lol, I guess whatever makes her happy is ok.

Recommended for pure, raw fervor.

I don't care...WHY do you.

He's horrible. She's horrible. And it's a horrible show hosted by a Republican.

And no, I don't care how much he lies and says he's left the party.

He and they are consummate piers. They'll talk this in public and slide on their bellies like snakes to keep the GOP in power.

with whether the viewers love it or hate it.

And it is apparent the OP watched at least the first hour . . . even though distressed. Just beefing up their ratings.

Every day someone on du posts about some outrage on that show. But they keep on watching. Hilarious.

middle of the road people. It's for profit to Comcast, not a show to promote democracy and progressive interests. Bottom Line, it's there to make money, period.

children...there are many more than 2,500. I know we all suspected this but it's coming out.

Last year there were about 55 unaccompanied minors coming in per month. Suddenly this year that number has spiked to 255 per month. Gee I wonder why.

Solid reporter.

She's pretty good in general and more tied into the house/senate goings-on, so it was useful to get that tidbit from house aides concerned about it.

leans toward supporting the restaurant owner's decision to oust SHS during her meal, even though most of the pundits thought that it promoted tribalism and halts communication.

N.B.: Not responding directly to Ilsa, but the sentiment she reported was expressed by most of the pundits.

What communication could possibly be halted? The president doesn't hold press conferences, and hasn't even had a daily briefing since last Monday. Is there some free flow of give-and-take going on that the popular media aren't telling the American people about? Is there some secret venue or forum where reporters are pinning down the weaselly spokespersons and getting real answers to their questions? I think the public might be real interested in that, if it's happening.

betweden opposite-minded people. The liberals have always been the ones to turn the other cheek, so there was always an opening. Now liberals are so fed up, we feel like if they can't see how wrong X, Y, Z are, then they are hopeless and not worth talking to. Even less dialogue.

is that the craven wingnut ReTrumplicans wouldn't be able to "communicate" with the slightly less craven wingnut ReTrumplicans.

That has to be it. The MSM describes a bill completely negotiated between ReTrumplicans that want to rip immigrant infants from their mothers arms, and Retrumplicans that want to eat immigrant infants in front of their moms as a "compromise" bill.

They couldn't possibly mean communication with Democrats, could they? I mean, it's not like everything Retrumpicans are doing is negotiated among themselves, is it?

It's the legislative equivalent of mutual masturbation.

Still on the right but you get a good sense that you could have a useful conversation with her. At least compared to Joe and Barnicle.

They were just saying Maxine Waters was encouraging violence against Trump admin officials, and all this is feeding right into the Trump cult mind set that liberals hate them and they need to side with Trump to fight against the evil liberals.

The brainwashing and gaslighting in this country is insane. The media sucks.

until they elected an orange bile duct with goofy hair as the leader of the free world.

Ari, Chris Hayes...not the other one, Rachel and Lawrence.....Stephanie Ruhle should take Tweey's show.