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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsACLU....Fact-Checking Family Separation
UPDATE (6/21/2018): On June 20, President Trump issued an Executive Order, purporting to end the family separation policy. But that doesnt end the humanitarian crisis, which he created. The executive order offers no plan to reunite the thousands of children who remain separated from their parents. The administration has signaled that it will now detain all families with children, regardless of whether they are asylum seekers, or pose a flight risk or a danger to the community. These children dont belong in jail at all, under any set of circumstances.Is there a law that requires family separation?
There is no law that requires the Trump administration to separate families.
This crisis stems from a series of policy choices the Trump administration made. In fact, reports arose as early as December 2017 that the administration was considering a plan to separate border-crossing parents from their children. In March, then-DHS Secretary John Kelly confirmed this, saying it would help deter Central Americans from coming to the United States.
Does Paul Ryans bill end family separation?
MUCH MORE.....
https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/immigrants-rights-and-detention/fact-checking-family-separation
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)are crimes against humanity. Miller, Trump, Kelly and Sessions need to own this one. Hopefully the crimes they are committing are being calculated by outside agencies. And stop this heinous cruel law. tRump/Miller is the animal here and dirty vermin that he is. I hope the courts continue to reunite those children and their parents.
One thing: was the question ever answered where are girls and babies????
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)The had contracts, supplies, building designs, locations picked, personnel in place, facilities around the country cooperating, etc. but ! NO REUNITING PLANS! NOTHING! EVER! They never did and still do not intend on unifying families. They will not cooperate and will blame the Dems. This is far from over.
spanone
(135,877 posts)and we're told to be civil.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)I am sure they were bullied or laughed out of the meeting. They do not think like normal people and probably didn't even consider the kids or give it much thought if they did. It was just another PROBLEM that was not a priority and was put on the back burner while they focused on the important factors in executing the policy.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)I hate to say what they could be doing to those girls it's criminal though.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)I wouldn't put anything past them torturing them too, they are keeping the truth from the American people which I view as a crime.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)now they are after innocent children and families who only want a better life for themselves, this plan of theirs must go down in flames.
There were a few Democratic Senators who saw first hand what the prisons look like, Senator Kamala Harris, Senator Warren too that is what I had read here. They are not going to let this go.............not at all.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)The MSM should have fact blocked Trump's outrageous lie from the beginning. It past time for the MSM to preface every single story with the truth on this outrage. Why is it impossible for them to tell the truth to Americans, that this is a human crisis tragedy entirely of Trump's making, it is Trump Policy supported & insulated by a fully Republican controlled Congress
Our MSM even still continues evasive,confusing obfuscations on this story. Their job & responsibility is to legitimately research & report real facts. Instead they continue to repeat Trump's paranoid, fact free tweets and brain farts as news every evening on NBC, CBS, & ABC, refuse to make the situation clear:
1) These are families seeking asylum from life ending violence. Trump's Administration has deliberately curtailed lawful
access to these ayslum seekers at the legal border checkpoints, forcing them to cross illegally so they can be called "criminals."
2) By my own best estimates, these families each cost $750,000/year to imprison in Trump's for profit hell holes. In the past the Case Mgmt System w/ ankle bracelet cost $25,000/per family and had a 99.4 compliance/completion rate. 3)If people do not care about Trump cruelty, they need to be reminded how much Trump's flagrant hysteria & cruelty will cost taxpayers and is already diverting from our essential criminal,judicial, social and military funds & resources.
The local MSM news stations are no better. There is no excuse for repeating propaganda at the expense of facts for this human atrocity created by one President and one Political Party. This is truly a failure to communicate among those companies most
responsible to do exactly that.
spanone
(135,877 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I'm going to guess that it's uncivil to question the pronouncements of Trump or his administration, so they have no choice but to repeat everything that comes out of the administration without analysis or criticism. And if they're about nothing else these days, the fake news media, enemy of the American people (as they have been dubbed by that same President Trump) are about civility and proper decorum.