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spanone

(135,877 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:21 PM Jun 2018

ACLU....Fact-Checking Family Separation

UPDATE (6/21/2018): On June 20, President Trump issued an Executive Order, purporting to end the family separation policy. But that doesn’t end the humanitarian crisis, which he created. The executive order offers no plan to reunite the thousands of children who remain separated from their parents. The administration has signaled that it will now detain all families with children, regardless of whether they are asylum seekers, or pose a flight risk or a danger to the community. These children don’t belong in jail at all, under any set of circumstances.

Is there a law that requires family separation?

Donald Trump has repeatedly blamed family separation on a law enacted by Democrats. On June 15, he told reporters, “I hate the children being taken away,” and added, “The Democrats have to change their law — that’s their law.” Secretary Nielsen repeated this falsehood at a briefing on Monday saying, “Surely it is the beginning of the unraveling of democracy when the body who makes the laws, instead of changing them, tells the enforcement body not to enforce the law.”

There is no law that requires the Trump administration to separate families.

This crisis stems from a series of policy choices the Trump administration made. In fact, reports arose as early as December 2017 that the administration was considering a plan to separate border-crossing parents from their children. In March, then-DHS Secretary John Kelly confirmed this, saying it would help deter Central Americans from coming to the United States.


Does Paul Ryan’s bill end family separation?

This week House Republicans will vote on a bill that purports to protect Dreamers and end family separation but does neither. Known as the Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2018, the bill would put DACA-eligible individuals on a long and convoluted path to citizenship — which is all subject to whether Trump gets his border wall. The changes in the bill would make it harder to apply for asylum and includes dangerous provisions making it easier to jail children and families.


MUCH MORE.....

https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/immigrants-rights-and-detention/fact-checking-family-separation
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ACLU....Fact-Checking Family Separation (Original Post) spanone Jun 2018 OP
The whole sick situation bdamomma Jun 2018 #1
They planned everything to the smallest detail for a year. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #2
wonder what they planned to do with the children? surely someone asked this question spanone Jun 2018 #3
IF (a big IF) anyone had the guts to mention that subject BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #5
I don't know bigman bdamomma Jun 2018 #7
if they are drugging these kids with psychotic medications bdamomma Jun 2018 #6
they couldn't get the Muslims bdamomma Jun 2018 #4
K&R Gothmog Jun 2018 #8
Why doesn't the MSM repeat this every time:Trump Policy is family separation. There is NO "Dem" Law. stuffmatters Jun 2018 #9
they profit from the 'ball game' spanone Jun 2018 #10
A very good question gratuitous Jun 2018 #11

bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
1. The whole sick situation
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jun 2018

are crimes against humanity. Miller, Trump, Kelly and Sessions need to own this one. Hopefully the crimes they are committing are being calculated by outside agencies. And stop this heinous cruel law. tRump/Miller is the animal here and dirty vermin that he is. I hope the courts continue to reunite those children and their parents.

One thing: was the question ever answered where are girls and babies????

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
2. They planned everything to the smallest detail for a year.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jun 2018

The had contracts, supplies, building designs, locations picked, personnel in place, facilities around the country cooperating, etc. but ! NO REUNITING PLANS! NOTHING! EVER! They never did and still do not intend on unifying families. They will not cooperate and will blame the Dems. This is far from over.

spanone

(135,877 posts)
3. wonder what they planned to do with the children? surely someone asked this question
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jun 2018

and we're told to be civil.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
5. IF (a big IF) anyone had the guts to mention that subject
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:36 PM
Jun 2018

I am sure they were bullied or laughed out of the meeting. They do not think like normal people and probably didn't even consider the kids or give it much thought if they did. It was just another PROBLEM that was not a priority and was put on the back burner while they focused on the important factors in executing the policy.

bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
6. if they are drugging these kids with psychotic medications
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jun 2018

I wouldn't put anything past them torturing them too, they are keeping the truth from the American people which I view as a crime.


bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
4. they couldn't get the Muslims
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jun 2018

now they are after innocent children and families who only want a better life for themselves, this plan of theirs must go down in flames.

There were a few Democratic Senators who saw first hand what the prisons look like, Senator Kamala Harris, Senator Warren too that is what I had read here. They are not going to let this go.............not at all.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
9. Why doesn't the MSM repeat this every time:Trump Policy is family separation. There is NO "Dem" Law.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:17 PM
Jun 2018

The MSM should have fact blocked Trump's outrageous lie from the beginning. It past time for the MSM to preface every single story with the truth on this outrage. Why is it impossible for them to tell the truth to Americans, that this is a human crisis tragedy entirely of Trump's making, it is Trump Policy supported & insulated by a fully Republican controlled Congress

Our MSM even still continues evasive,confusing obfuscations on this story. Their job & responsibility is to legitimately research & report real facts. Instead they continue to repeat Trump's paranoid, fact free tweets and brain farts as news every evening on NBC, CBS, & ABC, refuse to make the situation clear:
1) These are families seeking asylum from life ending violence. Trump's Administration has deliberately curtailed lawful
access to these ayslum seekers at the legal border checkpoints, forcing them to cross illegally so they can be called "criminals."
2) By my own best estimates, these families each cost $750,000/year to imprison in Trump's for profit hell holes. In the past the Case Mgmt System w/ ankle bracelet cost $25,000/per family and had a 99.4 compliance/completion rate. 3)If people do not care about Trump cruelty, they need to be reminded how much Trump's flagrant hysteria & cruelty will cost taxpayers and is already diverting from our essential criminal,judicial, social and military funds & resources.

The local MSM news stations are no better. There is no excuse for repeating propaganda at the expense of facts for this human atrocity created by one President and one Political Party. This is truly a failure to communicate among those companies most
responsible to do exactly that.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. A very good question
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:38 PM
Jun 2018

I'm going to guess that it's uncivil to question the pronouncements of Trump or his administration, so they have no choice but to repeat everything that comes out of the administration without analysis or criticism. And if they're about nothing else these days, the fake news media, enemy of the American people (as they have been dubbed by that same President Trump) are about civility and proper decorum.

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