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The options are becoming increasingly few. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jun 2018 OP
There's only ever been one option. bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #1
Exactly. We win big in November, it sends trumpsters a yuge message. We lose, it gets even worse. Hoyt Jun 2018 #5
In elections rigged by Russia? Coventina Jun 2018 #6
If voting didn't matter, we wouldn't have won the Virginia gubernatorial, the Alabama Senate, bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #8
I'm not saying it doesn't matter. But I no longer think it's a cure Coventina Jun 2018 #9
It amazes me people insist the elections are rigged mythology Jun 2018 #11
Yeah, it's something. bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #13
True. It was always...oh, whatever Trump does can be undone by a Dem president Blaukraut Jun 2018 #2
Pitchforks? Cracklin Charlie Jun 2018 #3
The possibility of being 'caged' just got a lot more real C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #4
What options are there really? Voting? Yeah I'll vote. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2018 #7
Exactly. eom Coventina Jun 2018 #10
Nonsense conspiracy theory mythology Jun 2018 #12
What conspiracy theory? When did I say there was a conspiracy? Still In Wisconsin Jun 2018 #14
Exactly. Codeine Jun 2018 #15
Wake me in November superpatriotman Jun 2018 #16

Coventina

(27,169 posts)
6. In elections rigged by Russia?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jun 2018

I'm not saying we shouldn't vote, but I am increasingly convinced it means little to nothing.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
8. If voting didn't matter, we wouldn't have won the Virginia gubernatorial, the Alabama Senate,
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jun 2018

PA-18, all the Wisconsin elections, etc.

Coventina

(27,169 posts)
9. I'm not saying it doesn't matter. But I no longer think it's a cure
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jun 2018

like I used to believe.

I'm not getting my hopes up, especially at the national level.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
13. Yeah, it's something.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jun 2018

There's no doubt that Russia has impacted elections though it's online disinformation campaigns. But I've seen a lot of people here who think they actually changed votes in the ballot box, which there has been no evidence to support whatsoever.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
2. True. It was always...oh, whatever Trump does can be undone by a Dem president
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jun 2018

and a Dem congress. Not this, though.

C_U_L8R

(45,019 posts)
4. The possibility of being 'caged' just got a lot more real
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jun 2018

Liberals are certainly on their list. Holy fuck.
We have to win elections or we are done.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
7. What options are there really? Voting? Yeah I'll vote.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:26 PM
Jun 2018

Will it matter? Sure it will, about as much as it did in 2016. It's over.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
12. Nonsense conspiracy theory
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:36 PM
Jun 2018

The election wasn't rigged. There is zero evidence it was. The national polling 2016 were more accurate than in 2012. Or do you thing Obama rigged the election?

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
14. What conspiracy theory? When did I say there was a conspiracy?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:40 PM
Jun 2018

I'm saying, the Republicans won in 2016 despite our votes and will do so again in 2018. TRUMP's court is confirming gerrymandered Congressional maps left and right, and upholding voter suppression laws at a similar rate. TRUMP just got another Supreme Court vote. There's no conspiracy theory here, just reality.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
15. Exactly.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jun 2018

A Supreme Court that can uphold this fucking bullshit



with their current makeup is a Supreme Court that will be Step One in a goddamned sci-fi dystopia with another right wing ideologue on the bench.

I officially hate everyone and everything now. Fuck it all.

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