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Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:25 PM Jun 2018

It's court-packing time

Republicans are so radicalized they no longer feel constrained by even the faintest notion of norms or precedents. Stare decisis is a punchline for them. If there is no one to physically stop them from doing something, they will do it. Roe v. Wade is as good as gone, along with Obergefell and every other wingnut bugaboo, from Obamacare to prayer in school and Brown v. Board.

This also means that they wouldn't hesitate, not for a second, to pack the court if they found themselves in our position (it took McConnell all of five minutes to overturn the supposedly sacred filibuster for SCOTUS nominees). So we've got to get past our self-imposed "when they go low we go high" restraints and start coming to terms with reality. Once we're back in power and public outrage starts building over the country's return to Puritan-era social policy, we'll be the ones getting blamed because that's how this electorate works: Republican lunatics break things, and Democrats get blamed for not fixing them fast enough (because "both parties are the same" and yada yada). If we're not ready to play the game with the same level of ruthlessness as the Republicans, then we might as well surrender now.

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It's court-packing time (Original Post) Azathoth Jun 2018 OP
"Once we're back in power?" pangaia Jun 2018 #1
We're already on course to retake the House Azathoth Jun 2018 #2
You need the Senate and so far Trump is filling up seats left and right. Historic NY Jun 2018 #3
Senate will have to wait for 2020 Azathoth Jun 2018 #4
" We're already on course to retake the House.." pangaia Jun 2018 #5
Jeez, nice to see the enthusiasm for our electoral chances Azathoth Jun 2018 #6
Oh, that is sweet. really sweet. pangaia Jun 2018 #7

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. "Once we're back in power?"
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jun 2018

And when will that be?
If it ever happens I'll be dead.


With all DU respect...

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
2. We're already on course to retake the House
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jun 2018

And 2020 is likely shaping up to be a big blue election as well.

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
4. Senate will have to wait for 2020
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:47 PM
Jun 2018

Which will, ironically, work to our advantage because it will give Trump's SCOTUS a year or two to really scare the shit out of apathetic 'both parties are the same" voters.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. " We're already on course to retake the House.."
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:50 PM
Jun 2018

Only POSSIBLE chance of that happening is if there is a 'fair' election.

2020??

I think even Nov 2018 is too late.

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
6. Jeez, nice to see the enthusiasm for our electoral chances
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:03 PM
Jun 2018

I used to have to go to Breitbart to get that kind of assessment of Dems' chances

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