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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEnough with the negativity - look at the polling on Roe v Wade
Last edited Thu Jun 28, 2018, 04:22 PM - Edit history (1)
Ok let me edit this again since people are missing the point. The great majority of voters have assumed for years that despite all the talk, Roe v Wade is not in any real danger. Once it starts to set in that it is, there is probably going to be a very big response in the elections. That doesn't mean it will be enough to stop the overturning of Roe v Wade. When the judges are appointed, what's done is done. What I'm saying is that currently, in case you haven't noticed, the Democratic Party has ZERO power and damage is being done daily on a range of issues. This Roe issue is probably a third rail you don't ever touch. The Republican Party is touching it. The polling shows that is a very unpopular thing to do. The panic that women OF BOTH PARTIES will experience when this becomes a real possibility could pull the rug out of the GOP in the elections for years to come. You don't think women feel passionately about this on very personal level? Republican women included? I'm not pulling this out of my ass. Look at the numbers yourself.
The Supreme Court issue was decided when Trump got elected. What we have to do is start looking at what comes next. The pendulum always swings back, and this issue could make it swing back much faster and with a lot more force in favor of the Democrats, which, again, don't currently have shit. If Republicans had left this issue alone they might have ruled a lot longer. This could bring about their swift demise.
Look at the breakdown among REPUBLICAN voters in the CBS News poll. 61% support access to abortion.
http://pollingreport.com/abortion.htm
FSogol
(45,546 posts)realmirage
(2,117 posts)The point is that the Democratic Party could very easily take back the government and reverse the damage on a range of issues. If, worst case scenario, Roe is overturned, it could destroy the Republican Party for a generation. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
FSogol
(45,546 posts)Floyd R. Turbo
(26,634 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)A minority is currently destroying the country with no consequences. A minority can get Roe overturned too.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)in the elections as a result
Bettie
(16,130 posts)who care what their constituents actually want.
There aren't.
Hekate
(90,849 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,479 posts)realmirage
(2,117 posts)Roe v Wade affects nearly every family in America. It affects women in a very personal way. This will get a much stronger response than immigration.
sinkingfeeling
(51,479 posts)anarch
(6,535 posts)beyond the point where they can rile up enough support from fanatics to force their agenda on everyone. That's why they like heavy-handed law enforcement, locking people up who disagree with them, etc.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)anarch
(6,535 posts)realmirage
(2,117 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)there are 18 states that have varying types of legislation already on their books sevet trely restricting a woman's right to choose and which will automatically become effective. The anti-choicers haven't wasted their time. They've been working like termites, undermining the legal framework which has supported the right to choose, just waiting for the one triggering event. And that event may not be far off.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)what the repercussions will be in the elections, and how it will strengthen the Democratic Party which currently has zero power
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Two weeks of horrible press, demonstrations here and there and, after 15 days or so, business as usual.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)I think when you start to see the panic set in among female voters when they start to think Roe is in real danger, you're going to see the effect of that in the elections.
StinkyPete
(13 posts)Although I could maybe see Trump waiting 2 years, get re-elected, and then go balls out to turn Roe/Wade.
Yikes.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)In the meantime, the fear that it might be could bring a massive blue wave.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)At this point a minority of people are calling the shots and they don't give a rats ass about the rest of America.
shanny
(6,709 posts)realmirage
(2,117 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)BY ABIGAIL GEIGER JANUARY 5, 2018
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/05/americans-support-marijuana-legalization/
HITLER COMES TO POWER
https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007671
realmirage
(2,117 posts)is spreading rapidly. My state of NM is likely to legalize it within a year. So the polling on that is consistent with what's happening in government.
Germany had a different system, and that was a different situation. World War I had crippled their economy, they felt humiliated by the loss, they had lost large amounts of territory, and the Allied powers were crushing Germany with reparations. I don't see any parallels there to today's America. Other than there will always be stupid people. But history always rights itself, and the most horrible events are the exception, not the rule.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)and I can go to prison today for it, in my redstate.
Also the fact that Hitler was elected by just 33% of German votes to start his bloody holocaust and plunge the world into WW2.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)sadly : (
It is scary that Hitler made so much out of such little support, but like I said that was a different time and place. I'm not worried about that. Yet.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)will be the penalty imposed on a woman who has an abortion. Life in prison? Death penalty? Pro-life or anti-woman?
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)They are now in a position to do just that. They do not give a damn about public opinion. Overturning Roe is the Holy Grail for those extremists. NOTHING else matters to them.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)when it starts to look like it could happen? Especially among women voters?
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)They scream so loud and condone violence it appears there are more of them.