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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums*Suspect in the shooting damaged his fingertips so that law enforcement can't identify him
*suspect in the Capital Gazette newspaper shooting damaged his fingertips so that law enforcement cant identify him from finger prints.
*suspect has no ID
*Smoke bombs/flash bangs were found in this backpack
Link to tweet
MattP
(3,304 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)tanyev
(42,634 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Some spies use it also. They burn the flesh off their fingertip pads, when the area heal, their are no ridges to allow identification.
nolabear
(41,994 posts)He sounds like a class one idiot with a lethal weapon. You know, Super Elite.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)there will be people out there to identify him.
brush
(53,922 posts)Altering his prints smacks of some sinister force/s backing him.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)I suspect he'd have more efficient weaponry. No, the fingerprint thing smacks of a dumbass who really thinks that would prevent the police from learning his identity.
brush
(53,922 posts)tear huge holes in bodies. And they've been used in several mass shootings (see Columbine for one).
They can be very lethal and thre are even semi-auto versions of them. I mean come on, five are dead and more injured.
And IMO it's suspicious to me this guy carried no ID, altered his prints and won't identify himself. Who/what is he hiding?
Mariana
(14,861 posts)Police have lots of other ways to identify people nowadays. They don't need driver's licences and fingerprints anymore.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But yeah, he likely is some garden variety dumbass.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He may hang out on the fringe of society or have a desire to. Police indicated that him and the paper have a history, cops will likely piece together things in a day or so.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)the police once before, and hes in MD resident.
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)lostnfound
(16,192 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)An example would be 3 people are burned unrecognizable. Since you know who the victims are, you can obtain their dentist's records to identify the remains. If you don't have a clue who the victim is, you have no way to obtain a dentists record, which is otherwise private medical info.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Why would the police have your dental records?
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)my mistake
Historic NY
(37,454 posts)like dead people the strip off the skin like a glove
tymorial
(3,433 posts)They can be removed temporarily by damaging the upper layer but if he burned them down to or damaged the 2nd layer they may not return. More likely they will take dental impressions and attempt to hasten DNA.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)"Holy pinkie swear, Batman-- he's got no fingerprints!"
C_U_L8R
(45,025 posts)Hes quite the expert advising right wing nutters on covering up and destroying evidence
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)... The shooter, who used a shotgun, is refusing to talk to investigators or give his name, and he was not carrying any identification, a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation told the Los Angeles Times, speaking anonymous because he was not authorized to talk to the media.
Hes not been particularly cooperative, County Executive Steve Schuh said in an interview with CNN. Law enforcement does have a name for the suspect, but officials havent confirmed it ...
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/la-na-newspaper-shooting-20180628-story.html
BumRushDaShow
(129,656 posts)Skin cells actually grow back and the prints will return eventually, unless he went crazy and took all the layers off and then that would be a bloody mess.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Hekate
(90,858 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)He is someone's neighbor , relative .
Bettie
(16,132 posts)figured they'd see him on the news some day.
Sedona
(3,769 posts)They'll figure it out soon enough
Hekate
(90,858 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)Strap him down.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)They can only take it from you (and catalog it) when you're arrested (at minimum). Same goes for fingerprints, too, though so the fact that he was careful to try to destroy them suggests ... dude's been arrested. And if he has been, facial recognition is gonna nail him anyway.
If he's not been arrested though and has like lived out in BFE Montana on some militia ranch his whole adult life ... it could actually turn out to be hard to ID him.
I should also say if the print removal is all healed i.e. done awhile ago, first place to start is with people who were arrested in the past ... who lacked prints ... can't be THAT many of 'em.
Takket
(21,641 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Going to be interesting as information come out on him. Sounds like a rightwing nut that has been waiting to pop for a while.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Mariana
(14,861 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Leith
(7,813 posts)through facial recognition software.
I've heard that It's actually easy to temporarily remove your fingerprints: pineapple juice. Give him a couple days for them to come back, then fingerprint him.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)He said it was just a false rumor being spread on the internet.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Police and federal agents gathered late Thursday outside the address of 38-year-old Jarrod W. Ramos. Rich McLaughlin, chief of the Laurel police department, said his officers were there as part of the investigation into the shooting at the newspaper, and other sources identified Ramos as the suspect.
In 2012, Ramos filed a defamation lawsuit against the paper and a columnist over a July 2011 article that covered a criminal harassment charge against him.
He brought the suit against then-columnist Eric Hartley, naming Capital Gazette Communications and Thomas Marquardt, the papers former editor and publisher, as defendants.