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So, naturally the living room window AC unit tripped the circuit breaker and stopped. Resetting it did no good. Some sort of electrical short in the unit. Toast. That reminded me why I used window AC units instead of central AC, once again. We cool the room we're using, not the whole house.
So, I left the house at 9 AM this morning. At 11 AM, a new AC unit was in the window and the temp was going down. Cost? Just over $200 for an 8000 BTU/hr AC box. Installation cost? $0. Anyone can replace a window AC.
Two years ago, we had to replace our gas furnace in the basement. That cost us almost $3000. The HVAC guy tried to sell me on a central AC unit, for another $3000. Now, if that fails, it's going to cost a lot more than $200 to replace it or even repair it. So, I opt for window units in the rooms we use. If we're not in there, they're off and not using any energy. They're cheap. They work, and if one quits you can have a new one in place in a couple of hours, including driving somewhere to buy one.
So, where was my cheap new AC box made? China. They're all made in China, regardless of the brand on the outside. Too bad, but that's where things are.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)While I was trying to install my heavy old AC in a living room window on Thursday I dropped the damn thing out the window and it broke. It would seem that my tired old carcass is no longer strong enough to manage carrying the AC from the porch and wrestling it into the designated window - I figured this would happen sooner or later. So I went to Best Buy and bought a portable AC, which is on wheels and can be moved here and there and stored in a closet over the winter. Unfortunately I had to ask them to deliver it because it's too heavy for me to carry into the house and I'd probably drop that one, too; but I'll have it on Tuesday. And I managed to survive yesterday with the help of the upstairs AC (which is small and light enough for me to manage, at least for now), several fans and some cold drinks.
I didn't check, but the new AC is probably made in China. So it goes.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)Those portable units are pretty nifty, but a little more pricey.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)for an old lady who lives alone - you have to do everything yourself and it's kind of a drag if a lot of lifting and carrying is involved. I should have hired some neighbor kid to help but I thought I could still do it myself. Guess not. The portable AC was more expensive but it will be worth it if I don't have to deal with getting it in and out of a window.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)decided to go for the window unit. It's in there, now, and all I have is a scratch on my arm. A nice long one from scraping my arm on the old one while carrying it out of the house. A mark of my work, I suppose.
SWBTATTReg
(22,171 posts)generally stay in just one room of the house and so go w/ central air. I found that my central air for the whole house cost just as much as 1 window unit. I've been there, have had many years experience running a window unit vs. a central air unit in my rental units as well as my home. Central air, for me, hands down, has been the winner by far in that you are using more of your home/house during the summer months (have 3 dogs and 1 other person too).
This may be a preference depending on where you live too. I live in hot and extremely muggy St. Louis MO where humidity is literally off the wall (newscasters are saying humidity readings is one of highest they ever have seen). MN is probably just as hot, being this heat dome is pretty well over the central US heading towards the eastern part of the US.
One thing also, is that I did receive a $900 rebate too, on buying my central air (I have two central air units, one of which is a heat pump). Running both like in today's hot temperatures has been running $160 monthly, average, over last 3 years summer cycles.
Stay cool all.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Be cool man.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)In 20 years, the Great Lakes region in the summer will be like what KY and TN is like now.
Imagine what the southern US and Mexico will be like then...
Southern businesses will close and relocate further north as operating expenses rise (water and cooling fees). And where will all those climate refugees come, I wonder? They'll follow the jobs.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)is going to be in a heat wave for the next few days. I've lived in Minnesota now for 14 years, and the summer months are hotter than they were when I moved here. Along with that comes more severe thunderstorms. We have those rolling in tonight. But, we're on the northern edge of the big weather pattern that's moving slowly from West to East. It's going to be way worse south of us.
Climate change is affecting different regions differently. But, the overall trend clearly appears to be warming.
progree
(10,920 posts)and blah blah, and besides it all stopped warming in 1998 and blah blah blah and there's all these emails about the fake hockey stick and blah blah and the satellite temperature adjustments were miscalibrated and blah blah
I found this article in case some fuckhead starts in on some garbage on temperature measurements:
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/06/19/climate-change-signs-all-around
... These days, plants and animals are arriving at Rocky Mountain Biological Lab a week or two earlier than they were 30 years ago. The robins that used to arrive in early April now show up in mid-March.
... Marmots end their winter slumber ever earlier.
Evidence is in the blueberry bushes in Henry David Thoreau's Walden Pond, the dwindling population of polar bears of the Arctic and the dying corals worldwide. Scientists have documented 28,800 cases of plants and animals "responding consistently to temperature changes," a 2008 study in the journal Nature said.
... Starting about 30 years ago, the growing season in general around the Northern Hemisphere "rather abruptly changed to a new normal," with earlier springs and later falls, said Mark Schwartz, a University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee geographer. In the Lower 48 states, 2012 was the earliest growing season on record until it was edged out by 2017, he said.
In the U.S., fall's first frost is happening about nine days on average later since 30 years ago, while the last frost of spring is happening almost four days earlier,
more, much more
... Katharine Hayhoe, a climate scientist at Texas Tech, has heard non-scientists accusing the government or researchers of manipulating temperature data to show warming. There's no cooking the books, she said; nature is broadcasting a clear signal about climate change.
And the Arctic ice sheet is thinning, and it's maximum and minimum areas are shrinking
And the glaciers and snow caps are shrinking .... much of which feeds the great rivers during the spring and summer and fall that are used for irrigation ...
NickB79
(19,274 posts)Cost a pretty penny, but when I do the math it should save me many thousands of dollars over it's 20-yr lifespan.
Just checked my display, and it cost all of $1.16 to cool and dehumidify my house at a setpoint of 75F yesterday.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)That's why I didn't have a central AC unit installed. We simply can't afford to lay out that much cash in a lump sum, and I don't like paying interest on borrowed money. Besides, we almost never use our entire house during the day. We're here all the time, but most of the time, my wife is in her office, which is a converted bedroom. There's a $99, 5000 btu AC in her window there, and another in the bedroom. Both are on only when we're using those rooms. I work in an office in the basement, which never needs cooling and not much heating.
So, we can selectively cool the rooms we're using, and that keeps the bills down. In the winter, the central forced heating does heat the entire house, of course. But, we partially close registers in rooms we're not using during the day and manually zone-heat our house. Doors are closed when we're not in a room.
It's not a big house at all. So, our heating bills aren't all that high. Since we're here, we can adjust things as needed for economy reasons.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)malaise
(269,185 posts)About the heat in Colorado
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MineralMan
(146,333 posts)whole house air circulation system. My thermostat has a setting for that. I never do, though.
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NickB79
(19,274 posts)That seems to be a technology better suited to areas of low humidity.
FYI, there were 20 mph winds yesterday and it still felt awful outside
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