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fallout87

(819 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 03:52 PM Jul 2018

Court Packing... your thoughts?

Let's play worst case scenario.... tRump gets re-elected(incumbents are extremely hard to beat, and if the economy stays up he can ride it in 2020), and then gets to fill two more seats. I'm not so sure the Notorious RBG or Breyer can outlast 6 more years of him.

When we get back in power, the only way to get back any semblance of power in the Court is to pack it. It will be (quite possibly) either 6-3 or 7-2 by then.

The only downside, is that the rethugs will do the same thing.

I'm really stressed out about this.... and I don't see any solution here!!!!

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Court Packing... your thoughts? (Original Post) fallout87 Jul 2018 OP
Do it. roamer65 Jul 2018 #1
I think it's the same kind of thing as Igel Jul 2018 #2
Pack it. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #3
After the past 10 years.... TheRealNorth Jul 2018 #4
Just fucking do it. dalton99a Jul 2018 #5
It ended in disaster for FDR when he tried to do it. former9thward Jul 2018 #6

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
1. Do it.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:12 PM
Jul 2018

I have utterly no problem with it. The Constitution gives Congress the latitude for it and the SCOTUS size should be increased anyway to allow for a wider diversity of viewpoints.

It should be 13 justices.

Igel

(35,356 posts)
2. I think it's the same kind of thing as
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:14 PM
Jul 2018

gerrymandering, but worse in that it changes the rules to reset the game in a biased, very much non-opportunistic way not for a relatively small jurisdiction for an election cycle or until the next census, but for decades for the country.

I've rather enjoyed some retrospective articles I've read since Kennedy announced his retirement. He was long considered a swing justice, until he retired; suddenly many retconned him into being an arch-conservative, something few actual conservatives would agree with. In other words, the uber-rightist turned out to be not so uber and not so rightist. Then there were other judges that should have made the court very conservative, and, in the end, didn't have the much-feared effect. (Except for those who are very much not in the center, as observed from outside the system, but who nonetheless insist on using themselves to calibrate dead center.)

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
4. After the past 10 years....
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jul 2018

I see no reason we should let past norms dictate future actions.

Added: I just don't see it being successful as court packing would be challenged in court and it would undoubtedly be decided at the Supreme Court and they sure the Con judges sure aren't going to decid3 against them.

I think our best bet is getting 67 Senate seats + majority house to investigate and impeach the Cons in the court.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
6. It ended in disaster for FDR when he tried to do it.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 06:44 PM
Jul 2018

Lost 72 House seats in the following midterms and 7 in the Senate. Roosevelt's New Deal never recovered.

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